Why are digital streaming equipment manufacturers refusing to answer me?


I have performed double blind tests with the most highly regarded brands of streamers and some hifi switches. None have made any difference to my system on files saved locally. I have asked the following question to the makers of such systems and almost all have responded with marketing nonsense. 
My system uses fiber optic cables. These go all the way to the dac (MSB). Thus no emi or rfi is arriving at the dac. On top of this, MSB allows me to check if I receive bit perfection files or not. I do. 
So I claim that: if your dac receives a bit perfect signal and it is connected via fiber optic, anything prior to the conversion to fiber optic (streamers, switches, their power supplies, cables etc) make absolutely no difference. Your signal can’t be improved by any of these expensive pieces of equipment. 
If anyone can help explain why this is incorrect I would greatly appreciate it. Dac makers mostly agree, makers of streamers have told me scientific things such as “our other customers can hear the difference” (after extensive double blind testing has resulted to no difference being perceived) and my favorite “bit perfect doesn’t exist, when you hear our equipment tou forget about electronics and love the music”!
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Showing 1 response by douglas_schroeder

I had a similar experience when conducting ABX testing with amps (with all other pieces of electronics, I was able to select the proper item -cables and components - far better than 50% of the time). The only component that was not discernible in level matched ABX was the amp, which was shocking to me! The most bizarre aspect was that it was not possible to score well in ABX even when the amps being compared were SS vs. tubed! 

These results were written up by myself for Dagogo.com, as I reviewed the Audio by Van Alstine ABX Comparator. It was a fascinating experience, and I'm glad I took the time to explore it. Van Alstine agreed with my results, even with the aspect of the difficulty of distinguishing between amps in ABX. 

However, and this is critical, the similarity between amps was only when conducting ABX. Apart from that particular condition, or when reverting to normal usage in an audio system, the differences reasserted themselves. Therefore, I concluded that: 1. ABX is not necessary to establish differences between gear, 2. It does not represent real world conditions of listening, and has quite limited applicability to it, and finally, 3. That we have phenomenal ability/sensitivity to perceive minute gradations sonically, but poor short term acoustic memory. It took a LOT of concentration in a custom room with very low noise floor to conduct the ABX testing with accuracy.  

Consequently, after conducting my own exploration, I am content to spend less time thinking about ABX, and more time building better audio systems through very active, hands on methods.

Finally, I have done comparisons as well with DACs that were said to not yield differences of upstream components due to them being "bit perfect", etc. However, I did not find that to be the case. Whether they would be similar to amps, or not, in ABX testing, I do not know.  :)