which of these four amps for Wharfedale Elysian 4's?

unfortunately importing new into Canada has all kinds fees above and beyond that msrp, those Schiit’s would run around $5400 CAD and the local used amps I mentioned are less than half that and can be re-sold easily for what I will pay

but yeah i get your point, as soon as I have some extra cash will upgrade accordingly

In that event, the Yamaha could be a ’safer’ bet. I had the predecessor A-S2100 for a bit and it is a conservatively rated tubey sounding SS without sacrificing any detail (the kind of detail that is typically lost with regular tube amps). If this 2200 is anything like it, it will play a better role in bringing out the spatial qualities of this speaker. But, the important thing is these higher end Yamaha amps are designed to be very reliable (can take a beating if the prior owner was a amp abusing neandertal) and if it did break...Yamaha techs are good at fixing their amps as good as new without charging you anything much at all (send it directly to Yamaha, not to some local tinker town clown).

The Kinki may not be a good match for this specific speaker. It could make your speaker sound a bit clinical and its spatial qualities could go away. Chifi support may be great/may not be too great (depending) if/when things break.

(facepalm) No such thing happened..... Ayre’s cunning daddy downrated his 8 ohm wattage spec to make it look like it doubled in power at 4 ohms. The audiophile propagandized by doubling miracles got fooled.

I have not heard the Ayre, but based on reputation and its ability to double ts wattage into 4 ohms, that would be my choice.

@audiocanada 

Congrats! After you getting everything set-up to your liking, please share your impressions.

David

speaker impressions thus far,

at their price point, simply phenomenal, class leading , class exceeding,

this was expected based on my research

i would say if you're at all interested just get em if you can deal with the drawbacks which were also expected

which are....

hard to control the bass, need room treatments and or eq, kind of standard for larger towers

NOT an audiophile speaker per se, no holography, no crazy imaging,  not crazy resolving,  I suspect the Wharfdale Dovedale may be their best 'audiophile' speaker

the Elysian 2's with subs are likely a better overall solution for most

and the Kinki power amp controls these better than the other amps and its not close, I need to look into Kinki monos, again maybe not an audiophile amp but super clean fast and powerful and the stated power has out muscled and out controlled Hegel h390, and Parasound a21+

Kinki also did this with tough to drive Dyn Special 40's and controlled them better than my last 10 amps including Parasound JC5 and Mcintosh MC402

***mac was a very very nice amp though and endgame for many

@audiocanada 

Your findings on the amps are no surprise to me at all.  I own both the EX-M7 and the EX-B7s and the B7's are an upgrade which should not be a surprise. It is not however a large enough one that you need to run out and buy a pair unless you find a good deal. I find the Kinki's to be a match with a good 6SN7 based preamp. I've used both the Don Sachs and two different Supratek models.