what's going on with specs?


I'm having a hard time buying a power amp. I'm in the 5-10k range and whae I'm finding are things like PS Audio BHK 250. Specs show 250@8ohms and 500@4ohms. Then the Parasound JC5 shows 400@8ohms and 600@4ohms. Looks like PS Audio doubles at 4 ohms which makes me think it's a stronger amp until I notice the PS Audio spec is at 1 kilohertz and the Parasound measures 20 to 20 kilohertz. That is very confusing and I don't understand why PS Audio doesn't give full power measurements. Anyone with knowledge of these two brands or others. I have the Elac Vela 409s to drive. 
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People who post this question don't consider that specs are into a resistor.

Relation to a speaker [cables included] load: LESS THAN ZERO.

ONLY SONICS MATTER. And for once I agree w MC.

"If it measures good and sounds bad, –– it is bad. If it sounds good and measures bad, –– you've measured the wrong thing." –– Daniel R. von Recklinghausen, HHScott
so close you would have a hard time telling them apart better than guessing
Perhaps some might be guessing, but there are innumerable people who can tell the difference on any program.

In firearms, there a units whose accuracy is so good that they are set aside for competition. These arms may be designated 1:100 or 1:1000 depending on their superiority.

The same is true for many manufactured item: Engines, binoculars, electronics, etc. Manufacturers run Monte Carlo analysis based on component part tolerances. Just as there are 1:100 on the top, there will be the same on the bottom. They meet spec, but will never hold.

I once bought an amp a pal owned based on how it sounded in both our systems. After a couple of weeks, I returned the one I bought as it was sonically inferior. On the bench, both measured the same.

When we shipped systems for recording studios, the final QC was a listening test. Some units were reworked, some binned.
2 amps that measure the same as long as they are used within their limits will sound the same
Please list the required measurements

Measurements change with temperature, so unless the amp is played at the measurement temperature, they are meaningless.

Measurements are made with static signals, so unless you listen to test tones, they are meaningless.
djones51:

You can take two identical amplifiers that measure the same, alter the power supply in one to change the dynamic impedance and the amps will still measure the same THD, IM & typical datasheet specs, but differ sonically.

A group of listeners may prefer one amp in one system and the other in another depending on whether the amps ameliorate or exacerbate interaction flaws.

Specs tell you nothing other than the grossest approximations.

Tests are static. Music is dynamic.