warmest speaker cables you've heard?

Warmest speaker cables I’ve heard are the 0000 AWG fine-stranded welding cables I use. BTW, also the most neutral cables I’ve ever used. 

That capacitance albeit very very low, is the only characteristic that could possibly affect audio.

This probably one of the most profoundly anti-scientific and outright absurd statements I have ever heard in a while.

There is no scientific model that tells us that everything that could possibly affect sound is currently known … and there never will be.
We have recently discovered that all the matter that we can perceive amounts to less than 10% of the total mass of the matter in the universe. In excess of 90% of the mass of our universe we are unable to observe, and in our absolute ignorance we refer to it as “dark matter” and “dark energy”. We know it exist solely because we can see it affect what we can see. What it is, we do not have the faintest clue.

The idea that your 35 years in electronics makes you knowledgeable of everything that could possibly effect sound is pure fantasy. Your statement should read “That capacitance albeit very very low, is the only characteristic that I know of that will effect sound.”

Any 28 gauge? LOL
Honestly, if you need warm cables as tone controls you might address the fundamentals first; or put a very gentle LPF between your amp and preamp.

Your answer is to look for a lower Characteristic Impedance of the cable.  The reason is beyond the scope of this answer but the way they conduct and reflect signals is completely different. The Kimber is woven to lower self inductance.  It's CI will result around 50 ohms.  It will sound slightly softer than a twin lead type.  Both Telluriums are horizontal  trace pair ribbon.  HTP ribbons are the worst configuration, high inductance, and the sound will really suck.  The CI works out to be around 300 ohms and people who like them with an 8 ohm speaker are delusional.  You won't tell any difference between the Telluriums. The Kimber is not really great, but that is your list. 

pauly642 posts07-02-2021 7:43pm

That capacitance albeit very very low, is the only characteristic that could possibly affect audio.

This probably one of the most profoundly anti-scientific and outright absurd statements I have ever heard in a while.

There is no scientific model that tells us that everything that could possibly affect sound is currently known … and there never will be.
We have recently discovered that all the matter that we can perceive amounts to less than 10% of the total mass of the matter in the universe. In excess of 90% of the mass of our universe we are unable to observe, and in our absolute ignorance we refer to it as “dark matter” and “dark energy”. We know it exist solely because we can see it affect what we can see. What it is, we do not have the faintest clue.

The idea that your 35 years in electronics makes you knowledgeable of everything that could possibly effect sound is pure fantasy. Your statement should read “That capacitance albeit very very low, is the only characteristic that I know of that will effect sound.”

You are both wrong. The argument is senseless.  There are many more design factors.  Capacitance is more applicable to tonearm leads.  There is no sense in educating you here because your response is ignorant to a post that is also wrong.  If you want an accurate path, start by studying characteristic impedance and bandwidth.  Download a simulator, then build 30 different cable types and report back. Else both of you will spend a lot of money, never be satisfied with a cable, and never discuss it knowledgeably.

kellyp - Where's your response to my 4Hz. question, knowledge?

You are both wrong. The argument is senseless.

My argument is “senseless” to those who cannot comprehend the English language and keep within  context.

There is no sense in educating you …

FLMAO. This from somebody who cannot comprehend English.

DiMarzio Super M-path (discontinued).

Put them under a blanket. Especially at night. With some milk and cookies.  

The big heat cable.

The one that ran in front of the wall heater.

@docroasty we need closure on this anecdote! You ordered the Duelund cable and....???

@letch sorry for the late reply!

I received the Duelund cables and sold them off a couple of weeks later. they were decently put together by the company I ordered them from but there was a rather strong smell from the cables, similar to machine oil.. it saturated my listening room and I decided they had to go. sound wise they were OK, nothing immediately stood out. felt they lacked a bit of low end punchiness. 

right now I'm using Tellurium Q Black Diamond and Atlas Audio Mavros Grun speaker cables. they're both very good, dynamic, not bright sounding. I pretty much blew my budget on these cables but upside is I won't be changing them out anytime soon. 

Thanks. Unfortunately, I had already gone ahead and ordered 4 meters from PartsConnexion before I saw your post. We’ll see how it goes. Thankfully, they aren’t that expensive if I experience similar smells. Your current cables are way beyond my budget. Thanks for the follow-up.

@docroasty Wow! You weren't kidding about the smell. I have them sitting outdoors to see if that goes away. I've stripped them down and getting a multimeter this weekend to figure out pos/neg and attach to plugs. At this point, I do want to see how they sound, but not sure they'll stay in the house. I told PartsConnexion they should warn us about that.

I put the cables outside for a week and the smell went away. After swapping out my Synergistic Research cables, I swapped in the Duelunds and the let them play and I found them exactly what I was looking for. Warm and deep without any high-end etch. I tried some other cables, Mogami and Kimber, but nothing sounds as good as the Duelunds to me. I'm running the 16GA cables and contemplating ordering the 12GA. But it sounds so good, I figure why mess with it? I felt like it did take some time for the bass to fill out. I've been sampling speakers for my system so I've heard them in various configurations and it's all been good. I would venture adjectives of warm and natural capturing the rhythm of the music. If you're one of the people that wants "revealing" and "extended highs" you might want to look elsewhere. Though they do that well enough that I have to put in my EQ on those troubling recordings that are too treble forward. So, it's not like they're rolling anything off.

For once I agree with something jasonbourne has posted. Wires should not be considered tone controls. If you have a component that is too bright sell it! Attention should be paid to room acoustics as well. This could be part of the problem.