Warm sounding phono cartridge


Hello all.  I recently upgraded the phono cartridge on my Marantz TT15S1 from the Clearaudio cartridge that came with the table to a Hana Umami Blue.  I'm overall happy with the purchase.  However, while the Hana has made my well cared for and well recorded LP's sound excellent many of my albums now sound thin to me and noisy. Clicks and pops have been exacerbated to the point that I do not want to play some records even after a run through my Degritter ultrasonic.

I'm looking for a phono cartridge MM, MC or MI in the $1,000 range or less that is warm sounding and less revealing than the Hana.  Any thoughts?  

rfauto

@rfauto A properly set up Umami Blue should not leave you not wanting for a "lesser cartridge"—your description of a thin sound points towards a sub-optimal setup. Either that or something else in the analog chain is causing it.

I would first ask the dealer how it was set up, which alignment system was used, and if VTA and VTF were properly tuned. You mentioned that you traded in your Clearaudio Cart, the Umami Blue should sound warmer compared to that.

I can't stress enough how important professional setup is. I have the ML, before that, I had the SL, and the thin sound is not what comes to mind when describing Hana house sound.   

First principles.  Define the root cause of the problem.  Are you hearing clicks and pops on all you records or only some?  If only some, examine them carefully under bright light (I like sunlight).  Are the noisy records damaged?  If so, then +1 for a Sugar Cube.  If they show no signs of damage, you might try cleaning them again. You mentioned that you have a Degritter.  You might try using a different method of cleaning because ultrasonic cleaning is not effective against some contaminants. That is why many professional use a two or more step process such as a vacuum machine followed by an ultrasonic. Or at least you might try using a detergent solution first followed by a distilled water rinse.  Next, are the noisy records all made by the same record label?  That label may just be inherently noisy.  If so, again model depenant +1 for Sugar Cube.  Finally, I didn't look it up, but is your new stylus a Shibata?  If so, you should be aware that these are very difficult to set up and are prone to pick up noise.  Professional setup assistance may be your best solution.

My experience with a Hana was that it required a significant amount of break in. As the hours piled up, the midrange bloomed and the bottom both control and extension improved. Due to this, I also discovered the best settings on the phono pre were different after break in. 
 

Could it be set up or loading issues, sure, but I suggest you get some hours on it before moving on.

I have to disagree slightly with chipcalzone. Proper setup is very important but because of that anyone serious enough about this hobby to come here for advice ought to take the time to learn how to do it himself (or herself). Decent tools are a nominal one time expense, and there are excellent YouTube videos on the subject , see especially M Fremer’s. Also, the choice of alignment algorithm (Lofgren vs Stevenson vs etc) is not likely to per se be the cause of a thin” sound, whatever thin may mean to the OP.