Walker Vortex Vacuum Wand for VPI

Have you ever heard the old saying Rushton, "Run it up the flagpole, and let's see who salutes"?

My last response, which apparently hasn't made it past the moderators, possibly cause of wasted bandwidth, not due to any personal insults towards you, Lloyd, went on to further explain some factual evidence posted here, and realities, nothing more. Mark

Rushton,
I'm glad you're happy with the wand. I was simply making an observation that, almost at the same time I decided to take a wait and see approach to this thing it was discontinued. As you can see from my post on 11/24 I was then already noticing a lack of buzz on the subject. I realize my opinion is not based on direct experience but the impressions I get from feedback and online developments. I guess I just assume everyone will want to jump on board when something lives up to the hype. Again, I'm glad you're happy with it and nothing I said was intended to be disrespectful or insulting to you or Walker Audio.

I'd be very careful and am leary about having direct contact of any suction tube with the lp. I've had bad experiences with this in the past. The very first nitty gritty used a thin plastic teflon covering on the tube and this trapped dirt between the lp and suction tube and ruined quite a few records. I've also had misadjusted suction tubes on machines with a felt layer gouge the grooves and destroy records.

Machines such as the new Typhoon with an even more powerful suction may also be asking for more trouble. Dirt trapped there may just scratch and gouge the record-that u won't hear til u play the LP.

Seeing that most lps are irreplacable, I'd be very careful.

I recently purchased the Walker Vortex tube and thus far I am very, very impressed with the improved sound quality. Set up of the Vortex was a hassle as it took me over 1 hour to get it to operate correctly but after I figured it out and started cleaning records I can never go back to the standard VPI tube again. The veil was removed as the music was more vivid with stunning clarity and this was only with a re-rinse using the Walker prelude step 3. I was not expecting a sonic improvement of this magnitude.

Johnny

Johnny, if you use Walker Prelude but haven't added Step 4, I highly recommend that you get your hands on some and try it! Cheers,

Spencer

Yes Spencer I am going to try step 4 soon. Most have had a positive responce to step four. Tom Port indicated that some records sounded better with step four and some did not so he is not using it but I will try for myself in a few weeks to evaluate. So glad I purchased the Vortex and now will never look back.

Johnny

I just received mine. It installed too easilly (VPI 16.5; no set pin). Tried it to make sure no scratches on a real throw-away disc and first shot, no problems. I was surprised after reading these posts-I only ordered it cause it was discontinued; I was on the fence before hearing that. Well, I tried it out with the AI cleaning soultion (3 step) and it made my 2nd throw-away disc not a throw away any more. A pretty beat up Boz Scaggs sounded pretty darn decent.

Great job, Lloyd. I just ordered one for a buddy. Nice Christmas gift.

I was talking about this with a vendor who makes RCM fluid and as he explained they tried something like this but it left residue behind drying it to the surface with a technical term for it I cant recall (something with a "v")
anyway if you use some food coloring in the fluid on a old album you may notice this affect with the Walker, you may not as I am only passing on anothers attempts at this idea. He also noted that is the entire reason for the brush on the standard wand, it is only there to prevent this drying affect. Talk amongst yourselves.

Chad,

Not so sure that the food coloring would prove anything. I'm no chemist, but since food coloring is made to adhere color to other things(e.g. cookies), it seems like that happening in your experiment just would show that food coloring does indeed dye things as intended. The food coloring could produce the residue. It wouldn't prove that without it, a residue is left on LPs.
I'd also be hesitant to try this because I wouldn't want to get food coloring inside the tube. Cheers,
Spencer

I forgot to mention previously that older records from the 60's and 70's that I purchased used seemed to benefit the most from the Walker Vortex cleaning. There is definitely record to record variance in terms of improved sound quality with the Vortex but with some of my older original pressings the sonic improvement was remarkable. I cleaned several newer 180 gram reissues with the vortex and although they also sounded clearer the difference was not nearly as great compared to some of my 40 year old vinyl. It is also interesting that, at least in my case, imaging improved both left to right and front to back. Voices and instruments were more clearly placed and better defined on the sound stage after the Vortex cleaning. I am now fully realizing my deep my Dynavector XV1's cartridge can go in pulling out musical detail from vinyl.

Johny

Like I said I am only passing along ideas, I dont know if the Walker is great or shit but discussion is never bad.