VPI Prime or Scout or ???


Hi all,

I’m new to record players. I’ve always been a digital music person. That said, I’ve got s nice setup now and am looking for a record player for occasional records. I won’t be too serious about it and digital will remain my main source.

i know with some of the higher end players there is a learning curve but was hoping for something not too difficult to learn.

Being from NJ, I was pretty interested in VPI. I’m not sure I quite understand the differences between the Prime and Prime Scout. The Prime would probably be near the top of my budget. Also, I have no idea which cartridge to get. 

For context, I’ll mostly be listening to vintage jazz and rock. The turntable would feed into the Phono stage of my Mytek Manhattan. Any suggestions welcome! There is a pretty good deal on a Prime Scout I’m looking at so that’s why I figured I’d ask the experienced people here.
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Sorry I corrected it to quintet bronze which is around 700 dollars VS cadenza so for less than the price of the prime you will have an almost prime with a great cartridge and its a warm sounding combo 
@soundwatts that cartridge is more expensive than the scout. Should I be spending more on the table or cartridge? Equal? 
No Worries. I think you would be very happy with a Prime Scout and Ortofon Quintet Bronze since it is a bit on the warm side.

Had the Prime Scout for a year and was thrilled with it. I too was buying it as secondary to digital. But ended up not listening to digital for a year now.

Upscale Audio is in Cali and Kevin is a great VPI dealer.

He has a version of the scout that is in-between the prime and prime scout that will last you a lifetime and is a great deal. See the youtube link below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbCsBKR8nd0
Sorry to confuse. I’m in CA and I don’t see a place to demo. I’m from NJ originally. Also getting a VPI rack to round out my NJ components. Mytek is from nearby Brooklyn. The struggle I have it that I know the turntable will always be the secondary input to the digital. Thanks again so far for suggestions. Much appreciated. 
I think that you will be happy with either.  I originally bought the Prime Scout and ended up upgrading.   The Ortofon Cadenza Bronze is a great cartridge for you considering the rest of your system.

Where in NJ are you?  Audio Nexus in Summit can demo the tables for you.

PM me and I can send you my cell phone.
Your money, your call. The VERY BEST thing to do is listen to the tables and carts to determine what will be best for YOU.
Our of curiosity I see conflicting info. If I got the Prime or Scout, do I need help setting it up? I’m still a bit split. I like the Grado suggestions as long as they aren’t too expensive. I’m feeling the the Prime might bust my budget. 
So when did you compare the arms head-to-head?  Or are you just stating an opinion based on a lack of actual objectivity?
I don't care much for unipivots. Had a JH Formula 4. Sold it. Bought a new-in-box Mayware Formula 4 from an EBay seller (couldn't resist!). Awaiting installation on my Sondek or pre-Linn Ariston.
That Merrell GEM TT and arm looks like a nice product for the price! I'd probably buy one if I didn't already have way too many TT's!
The other Koshin (ne Jelco) arm I contemplated buying back in '78 was the GST-801. That was about $500 then! So instead bought its cheaper brother. And was happy with it!
I have an HW-19 awaiting assembly and installation. The Jelco (ne Koshin) arms look pretty good for the price! And they are gimbel pivots - unlike the (floppy) unipivots of the VPI arms! More precise tracking.
I have owned the older Koshin (Jelco) GST-1 (comparable to the 750). Bought new from American Audiophile (Madison Ave. NYC). Cost $219 (1978). Used it for years on an Ariston RDIIS (Linn's Scottish cousin). Cartridges included: GAS Sleeping Beauty, FR 1 mk3F, FR MC201, Dynavctor Ruby, Grado XCE ... All matched well and sounded fine! No longer have the GST-1. Bought an FR 29 and an FR 54 - older arms built by Mr.Ikeda-san! Awaiting installation and use with my mc cartridges.
@roberjerman 

My opinion is that the SA-750 isn't even close to ANY VPI arms.  I have owned both.  The VPI is so much better as to defy casual comparison.

Which VPI arms have you owned and testes head-to-head with a SA-750?  
As an alternative to the VPI East End Hi Fi of Coram, NY has the Merrill GEM PolyTable with SA-750 arm available for $1795 + $60 shipping. This TT had an excellent review in TAS. And the arm is better than the VPI arm! This would be my choice! eastendhif.com and eastendhif on Audiogon
Go for the Prime Scout. Add a Grado Sonata cartridge and you will have excellent enjoyable sound (longtime Grado user)! And you can do set up yourself. Plenty of videos on UTube about it (Analog Planet ... ). Buy a DiscWasher brush and D4 cleaning fluid (for use with brand-new LPs). Used LPs should always have a thorough cleaning before play (see UTube). Add a bottle of Stylast and a bit of Magic Eraser (stylus preservative and cleaner) and you will enjoy years of use from your TT system!
What ever player you decide on, getting it from a retailer skilled in turntable/arm/cartridge assembly and set-up/adjustment/optimization is a real good idea.
My opinion....

Might want to consider a Soundsmith Otello.  I opine that you might want to be a little careful about "warm" sound.  It can get congested and mask some desirable detail and tight timing.  
When starting out in analog, always go a level higher (or two!) than you initially planned for. Prime or Prime Signature.
Mytek Manhattan Phono Stage, to McIntosh C47 to McIntosh MC452 to B&W 802 D3. Looking for a nice warm sound (particularly for jazz). 
Any suggestions on a cartridge? Prime is already at the top of my budget and I don’t believe it comes with one?
In my opinion....

Prime.  Might as well pop for the real package rather than paying more to upgrade in the future.  And you WILL want to upgrade eventually.