The Vandy 2's have been around since the '80's, with the CE Sig.II the current iteration.
That they have been selling for so long should give you a hint about their capabilities, as well as why there are so many for sale.
And, used 2ce Sig II's go for $1400, even 3a sigs go for less than $2,200.
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I heard the Vandies after I got out of college in '79. They were so impressive that I still remembered them 40 years later, when I finally got back into hifi.
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Definitely give John Rutan a call or PM him here on audiogon his ID is: audioconnection.
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I got the Treo's after the 3a sigs. I do have a pair of the 2wq subs, so I am Quatro territory.
If space is an object, then a pair of Treo's will definitely fit better in a small room, like mine. You can always get subs as funds provide (though I heartily endorse the Vandy's).
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@wolf_garcia ,
You can remove the fabric with a little muscle and a small pry bar. There are videos on You Tube showing exactly how.
As the 1,2 and 3's are made to be minimal in appearance, you'll see the drivers, but also the wooden dowels holding the end cap pieces.
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Regarding serial numbers:
Vandersteen doesn't keep records of serial numbers, and Mr. V. will most likely not be able to give specifics.
The 'Ask Richard' page isn't well organized and you can spend a day reading through the posts.
If you want a rough idea, google the model's release date and try to interpolate.
You could also try to call John Rutan and get his idea of how old something is. If you are on the East Coast, he may well have sold them originally.
My take, buy the most current model you can(-so 2 ce sig2's). Get the serial number and call Johnny to see what the current serials are running.
I bought a pair of Treo's that Johnny sold to another Agon member who upgraded to Quatro CT's. Though mine are not CT, they are still fairly recent and they sound wonderful. So, even if you don't get something cutting edge, they should sound very good- just not what is currently offered, but then, you would be paying twice as much for that performance...
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@cbucki ,
If it were me, I would get a 2wq sub or two and keep the 1ci's. You'll get performance almost as good as a 3a sig.
Vandy is coming out with a new sub soon, so prices for 2w's should come down even more. Once again, look for as current a serial number as possible-
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@carmenc ,
Don't beat up Johnny. He is willing to offer free advice.
I say this as someone who has benefited from his advice, yet never bought anything from him. He won't try to sell me anything I don't want nor pressure me to buy something I do.
I only wish I had the funds to buy new. He would be my first choice.
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@cbucki ,
That is the beauty of the Vandersteen subs. You use the M5-HP crossover or get the fixed value crossovers. These are connected to the speaker outputs of your amp and allow the subs to work seamlessly with your speakers and relieve the amp from having to reproduce the low frequencies which are the most demanding.
When in doubt, call or message audioconnection, Johnny Rutan. He can give you the best advice on everything Vandersteen.
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@noises,
Check out HifiShark.
You can get a good idea of prices from sold items as well as find items for sale.
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@bstatmeister,
I believe it has a built in equalizer so it will be much like the 5's and 7's. John Rutan would have the specifics. I also suspect it will have a higher price tag. I would wait, when it comes out, I'll bet prices come down on the 2wq.
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@bstat,
As Johnny pointed out, owners of the 2WQ are probably going to upgrade when the Sub 3 comes out, so, as I said, there will probably be a few 2wq's for sale in the near future.
I would not expect Vandersteen to discount existing stock. And, if I were him, I would just sell existing stock before offering the Sub 3.
@mvlopez, Good question.
Though I am thinking there should not be a change. The EQ is more of a 'fine tuning' of the signal. And, the 5 and 7 speakers use the same crossover, I believe.
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