Vac Phi 200 vs. Audio Research Reference 75

Thanks Swampwalker,
I left you a question about biasing Lectron under your system. Please, respond if you don't mind.
Thanks again.

In case it was not clear, what I was trying to say is the Lectron and the VAC have some similar strengths. They also have a similar characteristic despite one using EL-34s and one 300bs. They have very robust, over-designed power supplies and output transformers.

Clearly, everyone likes VAC.
I thank everyone who responded.
I appreciate your help.

Lateguestnomore- As to your question, I've not heard the ARC, but I will tell you that the two amps I own now are a Lectron JH-50 and a VAC (the 30/30, not the 200 Phi but after hearing VACs statement amps in NY last month, the VAC family sound is still recognizable). I will also mention in case you not know, Doshi Audio may be able to help you out w the Lectron.

I am awaiting delivery next week of a Phi 200. I would agree with Charles1dad in his description of the VAC sound vs. the ARC sound, and my preference also lies with the VAC (as in the past it has gone with Jadis and Lamm tube amps over more high-resolution designs). If you like the ARC sound, though, you certainly can't go wrong, it's a fine product as well--since you'll hear it you'll be able to see if that sound suits your tastes. My recollection of the Lectron (and it's a fond recollection, that was a sweet amplifier) is that it favored the beauty of music and the midrange magic over getting the last bit of detail; if that's your preference I think you'll like the VAC. I also think the VAC will give you a bit more bass extension and dynamic power than what you're used to.

Wish you could just hear both of them in your system, there's no better way.
Since you can't I'll offer my 2 cents worth, I've heard both brands fairly often
over the years. I would prefer the VAC amplifier by a comfortable margin.
Based on my hearing the VAC Phi is fuller of body and tone and more
complete sounding and has very good resolution and transparency. The
reproduction of instruments and voice is better i.e. realistic, involving and
convincing. This type of presentation I find more natural and emotionally
engaging. The ARC at least to me are leaner, drier and thinner in
comparison. Some may consider them higher resolution but I
disagree.They have what I hear as a more traditional transistor character
which

obviously will appeal to some depending on personal taste and objectives.
The VAC equipment has high quality parts and very stout power supplies in
general. The 200 Phi uses the same premium output transformers as the
300.1 sibling, probably why the 200 Phi weighs a hefty 90 pounds vs 47
pounds for the REF 75.I not suggesting that weight means everything but
good transformers matter significantly in tube amplifiers.
Regards,

I have owned gear from both companies, they will both work well with the right equipment. The ARC will be more revealing, it is the most resolving tube gear I have ever heard. That said, some find it a bit too light for their tastes. The VAC is also highly resolving, but not quite so much as the ARC. The VAC gear will have just a hint of tube sweetness. I must admit that I prefer the sound of the VAC gear.

I agree with Jwm, I would not worry about the long term future of an audio company, tube circuits are fairly easy to find a good repair-person for. Many tube circuits have been around for many decades, just using different tubes and faceplates, while much of the circuit remains unchanged.

What you say is true with most small companies. When Israel Bloom of Coincident or the guy from Magico goes, so will those products. I would not worry about this life is too short. Many people know how to fix tube circuits.

I will take Phi 200 without hesitating.

You dont even need to listen to both these amp. Just open up and see the inside you will know why I will buy the VAC instead of Ref 75.

Vac phi200 is 2k more expensive than Ref 75 tough.