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Please don’t tell @millercarbon that we really DID land on the moon and return safely to earth. 

@oregonpapa 

Speaker Pelosi is in the House, no authorship of the bill. It came out of the Senate.

What is "redemption" and how does that apply to anyone in the conversation?

The 880 page bill passed unanimously by the senate contains the following language:

• Stop President Donald Trump and his family members’ businesses from receiving emergency taxpayer relief. The provision also applies to Vice President Mike Pence, heads of executive departments, members of Congress and their family members.

Why would a bipartisan senate include this language? 

@oregonpapa 

The Senate bill, written with little bipartisan input but certainly influenced over the past several days, has yet to reach the house. It will today.

I would prefer seeing corporate aid in the form of a new emergency SEC regulation allowing for the immediate issuance of a special form of preferred stock which the US Treasury could purchase and hold. It could have a capital gain cap at whatever is fair depending on the holding period. At some future date, the company can buy it back or the Treasury could float it to the market. No free lunch. We are about to bail out all US companies and by default, many foreign companies by virtue of supporting their US based workforce and its a staggering number financially.

Im politically moderate and fiscally conservative but above all else, Im a believer in truth and fact. You are welcome to feel however you like about former presidents but to give the current one a complete pass due to displayed character flaws is unfortunate. Lets forget all the white noise and reframing of truth to date. I just have a simple but unemotional question. Did our current president deduct hush money paid from his taxes. According to several people I know with knowledge of the situation, that is why tax returns wont be released. It will show clearly tax fraud was committed. DOJ won’t let that happen and a self granted pardon will block it.

i have high hopes for our national leadership, I always do. 

@oregonpapa 

wow! That explains it! The article you site is written as an opinion piece by someone who is attempting to rewrite the foibles on full display with the US handling and strategy during the Tet Offensive. Further, he is criticizing the house draft of a coronavirus bill which is not under consideration.

I should have known when you mentioned the page count that you did that you were mistaken. The actual bill is under 900 pages and has very little in common with the draft you site. Now, I dont mean to be critical of your analysis, if any was performed, but I am critical when someone reads something such as the article you site when it was an opinion piece in USAToday. At least you could have digested the content, taken a moment to fact check and then use your intelligence to recognize the writer was criticizing something that has no bearing on this conversation.

I also worry there are many out there who merely parrot what they skim without any display of thought or analysis. Like quoting “Christmas in March”! Do those with this level of allegiance still believe the virus is a democratic hoax? Those who cited and repeated this irresponsible line of thinking should pause and reflect. The mark of an intelligent being is to reverse course when they are wrong.