USB Cable being held hostage…Suggestions?


I bought a high end boutique USB cable used (MSRP $800 paid $400) and it wouldn’t play music on my streamer but played on a laptop.  Working with the seller and maker we agreed to send it to the maker October 2024 to test, repair or return.  In November maker told me it tested fine but insisted he wanted to replace it free of charge.  Monthly communication has been very spotty with several no responses.  I have been very patient and respectful sending no demands or threats etc. just asking for shipping confirmation.  I have asked several times just to return my original cable that the seller has agreed to give me a refund.  The maker has responded 3 times since January 2025 that he will ship me the replacement cable next week?  Still no cables and very slow if any responses.  Turns out the business is not accredited by the BBB. No lawyer friends to send letter for me etc.. Anyone gone through this dance?  Any suggestions on how to pressure the maker to return my original cable?  

tksteingraber

Showing 14 responses by tksteingraber

The seller agreed and still agrees to take back the cable for a full refund.  The problem is the maker Brad at RAL will not return it to me or the seller after repeated request to do so.  He’s in essence stealing my $400 cable.

I sent him a message, with this discussion link, on one of his items for sale posted here on Audiogon as a starting point prior to mentioning his business name. Hope he responds to end this nonsense.

Ok message received…Revelation Audio Labs …the sad thing is I have purchased from Brad in the past with great service and his cables are top notch.  I have since discovered he has had a history of this behavior in the past.  You just don’t know what kind of service you are going to get from him. Good or Bad…he does advertise and sell a fair amount on Audiogon.  I don’t like hurting small businesses but others should be aware of the games/nonsense he can put customers through.  

@deep_333 I can’t get a refund from the seller until the maker sends my cable back to me which he seems to refuse to do…I have since moved on and purchased a Veritas Audex top of the line USB cable that far far exceeds my AQ coffee I had prior.  Just a fabulous sounding cable that I am very happy with.

@kerrybh just trying to get my cable sent back to me from the maker so I can send it to the seller and get a refund…seller has been supportive with this issue.

@blackbag20 I have used several different USB cables on my streamer and all have worked fine. Because it works on a laptop and supposedly tests fine ?? I think it has a cable end connector issue that doesn’t engage fully on the streamer input…just guessing.

@ozzy Thanks and sound decision avoiding RAL…Don’t think he is “physically” sick.  He has several ads/auctions listed here and I have seen several posts of customers receiving new cables during this time frame. If he was sick that should have been mentioned in our exchanges the past 8 months explaining the delay.   Brad keeps promising it’ will be sent by the end of the week when he occasionally responds.

@mclinnguy 👍… Veritas certainly benefited from my issue.  Great fairly new boutique cable company with top notch reasonably priced cables run by great guys with excellent immediate customer service.  I liked their USB cable so much I ended up buying 5 other cables from them yikes!  No affiliation with Veritas just a happy customer.

@elliottbnewcombjr Cable is definitely the issue.  I have used my streamer with several cables prior to and after buying the RAL cable.  Only cable that has not worked is the RAL cable.

@sworksone   He values selling on ebay and knows ebay won’t allow him to get away with jerking customers around so he behaves.  Glad to hear you had a smooth sale.  His cables are excellent -enjoy!   I had no issues when I bought an umbilical cord direct from him a few years back….something is just off with his behavior as a seller.

@audphile1 Good suggestion.  I just posted a Buyers beware thread under Members Reviews mentioning Revelation Audio Labs to warn buyers.  

@kevn Appreciate your post and details.  I realize Brad is a one man show but his behavior and game playing nonsense is inexcusable.  Timely communication is a requirement for a successful sales business.  Don’t repeatably lie to customers.  Follow through with what you say you are going to do otherwise you earn a reputation as an untrustworthy lier.  Maybe you could have your friend stop by and pick up my cable that has been with Brad for over 8 months…or contact the Palm Coast police department to stop by😉.  Enjoy your cables

@chrisoshea I certainly won’t be buying from RAL and recommend others don’t as well…..but that doesn’t solve my problem of getting my hostage released back to me.

@sns I also had  absolutely no issues when I purchase an umbilical cord for my Supratek Preamp from Brad a couple years back.  With Brad it’s like a box of chocolates…You never know what you gonna get!