Upgrade Interconnects/Cables or…?


At 71 years of age, I have two possible upgrades I’d like to perform. After that I’m done, except for the usual tweaks (i.e., tubes, isolation, etc.). I’m very happy with the system I’ve built over the years, and it fits my room (medium), and the sound I’ve been after has been realized. I am guilty of concentrating on the main components of my system, and not paying much attention to what connects them. And, I’m in the hunt to upgrade my line stage…Maybe? So, what to do first, and perhaps I can hold off on the second option entirely? My budget is under $6,000 for either one.

I’m still an analog guy, even though I do have a DAC, Streamer, and NAS. My concentration here is for my phono playback. My interconnects and cables are old, but even so, each time I’ve upgraded a main component I have heard definite and sometimes significant improvement. Whenever I purchased interconnects/cables in the past, they were always decent ones at the time.

Option 1 - I’m looking at replacing the following interconnects/cables for my phono playback…

Turntable, Arm, Cartridge: Upgraded TW Acustic Raven, Ortofon RS 309D, Ortofon Verismo

               Current Phono Cable: Cardas Cross

Phono Stage: Tron Seven with the Reference caps

               Current Interconnect to Line Stage: Cardas Cross Reference

Line Stage: Boulder L3AE and recently upgraded the caps by Boulder

               Current Interconnect to Amps: Crystal Piccolo

Amps: TW Acustic 300B Monoblocks

               Current Speaker Cable: WireWorld Silver (original)

Option 2 - My system is fully unbalanced, so when considering a line stage, I don’t want to pay extra for designs that benefit from using the balanced side when I won’t be using that. One consideration for replacing my Boulder, is the Audible Illusions L3B.

So, which option might you choose if you could only choose one? And, what might you go with?

Thanks,

Kenny

kennythekey

audphile1 - What goes around comes around. Sometime back I contacted Jeff about replacing my speaker cables with the Audience. However, my Shilabe cartridge was aging and was starting to lose its pizazz. Again, I had to make a choice and bought the Verismo from Jeff instead. Only last night I was thinking about the Audience again after moving out my speakers. I started poking around and saw that the House of Stereo has a demo of the SX discounted. Even with my speakers moved out, I believe I can get by with 2m. Thank you for the advice about starting with the speakers and then move up the chain.

mclinnguy - No worries, all information is useful.

pindac - Looking into it, I noticed that information about the wire was somewhat sketchy…disappearing. Unfortunate.

Having Wireworld Polaris and Cardas Cross cables you all now realize that I’ve been out of the loop and poking around for years. I am basically ignorant with what’s up today, so why my post. In my mind, like a line stage for example, cables should not impart their own sound or color (grunge) onto your system. However, I see descriptions, posts, whatever, about tweaking one’s sound with these. Today, I want to hear my system as-is, so what do I choose or try, since I’ve never heard my system that way…With what I’ve been using? Am I making sense?

Kenny

 

Your setup is fine.

I would seek the best available  pressing of your preferred music and avoid audio forums.

No cable/tweaky add on will magically  transform it like having a dedicated room.

 

@tablejickey + 1 

Firstly the MSRP of your system is irrelevant here, I just like this expression “You can’t make a silk purse out of a sows ear” Another favourite “Some tweaks for twits”  Think diminishing return, placebo, a little returnable experimenting will enlighten you not lighten your wallet. 

@kennythekey It is pleasing to see you have the idea if producing a Build Your Own Cable as an option. Substantial monies are to be saved, even when using Connectors that are known to be an upgrade to how the signal passes through them.

@kennythekey "I’m sure I can get him to suggest what to use for the whole package and maybe this might be a loom of cables."

I’d recommend trying one component cable set at a time -vs- jumping over to a full loom all at once or you really won’t know where the weak links were prior. And remember, each of your components have different wiring inside so what really constitutes an end-to-end full loom anyhow.

Btw, I run Cross, Clear, and Clear Reflections in my Cardas sets of cables and the Cross work great for speakers as long as the upstream cables are decent. If your source, pre/amp cables are limited, the downstream Cross speaker cables may seem limiting at first. I don’t find that to be the case with good upstream cables.

You can move different type cables up/down the loom to experiment and realize differences. Maybe your contact friend can kindly let you borrow & demo some cables to try on loan, and this can be super helpful in finding a right mix for you and your ears in your system. What works in one system may not work well in another fwiw.