Tone arm plug in RCA cable?


I have a tone arm with a connector that plugs into the bottom of the arm to get the L/R channels from the stereo cart. 

There are currently going into a Sumiko Premire PIB 1 box on the side of the deck… The RCAs going to the phono stage are then combing off of that “break out” box.

So a handful of suggestions of phono lines to come off the table would be great to have.

Or do I just get some thin silver wire and twist up some, as they only need to be maybe 10” long (if even that long),

128x128holmz

If the OP wants to replace the Cable used for the PIB - 1, the method when used will add one more set of connections and disruption in the signal path.

Causing this condition is usually one that is avoided and attempts are made to keep the connections to the minimum required.

If this is the only option the OP is considering, a Pure Copper Zavfino DIN Plug and the Chassis Mount  Pure Copper WBT reduced eddy RCA's will be a good start for the connections.

These parts 'could' be attached to the box, which will remove the need for the length of cable to be utilised. The additional Space that may be required under the TT to achieve this would need to be addressed.

A length of Cable with PC Triple C or D.U.C.C Wire will be a cable worth experiencing, if the Cable has to remain used with the box, either of these Cables will most likely be kept and expanded on in use as umbilical's at other interfaces.       

@holmz : Please follow the @lewm and other gentleman advise. You don’t need the PIB..

 

" I need to try a different search engine. "

 

I think not, what you need is to follow trusty audiophiles that give you " solutions on hand " and stop to follow stupid posts.

 

R.

Yes, but what I and others are saying is he is better off getting rid of the box entirely.  Just go DIN at the arm base to RCA at the phono stage, which can very easily be achieved and would cost no more than buying RCA to RCA conventional interconnects, wire quality notwithstanding.  If Holmz has a "mini-DIN" connection at the tonearm (suggested by Elliot), which I have never seen, then I am still pretty confident the same idea can be made to work.  I do realize that buying a whole new DIN to RCA IC is going to cost more than just replacing that short run of wire from the DIN plug to the box, but I believe it's a worthy use of $$$.  Otherwise, yes, use "better wire" of choice between DIN and box.  There is some soldering skill and knowledge of what goes where needed to re-wire a DIN plug; paying someone else to do it would negate the cost savings of keeping the box.

@lewm 

I could be wrong but I think @holmz want to rewire the PIB-1 stock wire with better cable and looking for recommendations.

 

Talk to AntiCables. They can make any cable with any plug you want even assuming the OP has a miniDIN, whatever that is. It is always beneficial to reduce the number of physical connections in the signal path, noise or no noise.

I NEED a conversion box like that, because I have a mini-din connector out of the back of the arm (mine's above the deck). Thus I have to convert from mini-din to rca, then rca out to the rca Phono inputs. Note: ground connection also needed.

 

Yours, please clarify:

mini din OR larger standard size DIN connector within/out of the tonearm?

If standard size DIN, then you can skip the conversion box and use a DIN to RCA Phono Cable (with ground wire).

Verify if your tonearm connector is female or male, get opposite din connector on the cable.

Long enough to reach from the arm to your phono stage inputs with a bit of slack for convenience. Anticipate potential relocation when choosing length.

IF you already had an RCA to RCA phono cable you like, or want, you can continue to use the existing conversion box. That's one more connection, however if not noisy now, like mine, not a real issue. 

What they’re trying to tell you is you don’t need the bleeding box at all. The 5-pin plug that you shove into the base of your tonearm is called a DIN plug. You can buy a single pair of cables with a DIN plug at one end, terminating both channels. Each of the two cables emanating from the DIN will terminate at their other ends in RCAs which you plug into your phono stage directly. 

Hi Holmz, I am pretty sure the box only serves as an adaptor, in which case you would be best served by buying a tonearm cable possessing absolutely massive detectable lucidity. At a budget price Mogami, further up Audio Technica, Chord, Cardas, Kimber

@pindac my lucidity issue is more with what to search for, or product name examples. Maybe I need to try a different search engine.

If you can look at a RCA Phono Cable with PC Triple C wire, this will be a  wire that has a very detectable lucidity and is proving to be improved over OCC wire.

One other wire with a similarity in the detectable lucidity, along with a detectable hint of richness is D.U.C.C, this can be found as a RCA Phono Cable. 

 

@imhififan well right now it is:

  1. DIN —> RCA (into the PIB)
  2. PIB —> RCA (PIB to Phono stage.)

The PIB plugs into the tone arm.

 

But I am going to a new phono stage.


Is there any meaningful sonic advantage in going direct from DIN to phono stage?
(I think in the past it was mostly a PITA to get the cable into the phonostage without jostling the TT.)

Maybe I should just do shorter RCA from PIB to phonostage?

I probably want to understand what the good and not so good DIN to RCA are.
 

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