Tidal/OPPO streaming issue


I have been streaming Tidal through my oppo 105 for about five years at this point. Last night when I went down stairs to listen to music I got a window pop up on my Ipad screen that said invalid login token. I have never seen this before and could not get logged in no matter what I tried. I have a pair of Bose powered speakers upstairs hook to my computer
 just for non critical audio and could log in and browse/listen no problem. So I know my account is active and paid. Anyone else experience this and if so what was the fix? This is how I listen 90% of the time and almost every night for at least an hour or two. My only hobby/relaxation really. Very frustrating!
mizike
I using OPPO 105. Initially it did not work (pressed play button and the song did not play) and I tried to switch to "hifi" (from "normal") and it worked.


Like many of you, I felt I needed to bite the bullet and find an alternate way to access Tidal as Oppo is not likely to update its 2015 iOS app. I noticed several posts re the Node 2i, so here’s my experience.


I recently purchased the Node 2i after reading some favorable reviews. It does have a nice iOS app and is very easy to use. I tried it via its own DAC into my amp, as well as sending its digital output via both optical and coax to the Oppo DAC. The sound was always disappointing compared with Tidal directly via Oppo, even though MQA playback was a bit better than 44.1.

After a few days it went back. 


I now have the Pro-Ject Digital Pre S2 DAC. This tiny box is really impressive. I am now playing the Tidal app via my MacBook Pro fed via USB into the S2. The sound on standard 44.1 files is excellent. MQA seems a mixed bag. I find older material (John Coltrane) isn’t really helped much but some new jazz and classical (what I mostly listen to) material is really impressive. DGG’s Beethoven violin concerto with the Munich Philharmonic, and Vijay Iyer’s Its Far From Over were good examples. 

The Project box has a more detailed sound with darker backgrounds than the Oppo. It’s good enough that I am torn on whether it sounds better than the Oppo. Both let me close my eyes and suspend disbelief enough to be drawn into the music (despite being saddled with a computer on my lap as I listen with the S2). So for $500 I found a solution that suits me.

The system I listen through: NAD 375 BEE amp, Vandersteen 2 CE speakers, one Vandersteen 2WQ sub. 

i have an Oppo 103 and Tidal is built in.  works well, you just need to find it on the bottom menu and sign in.  what i miss is Spotify which is not supported by OPPO
I did finally figure it out last night. I was opening the album before I tried to move selection to the play queue. I now know to long tough before moving. Much happier than before. I'll probably love this thing. I have zero issues with the sound quality. I wanted to be able to take advantage of MQA decoding and Qobuz. I'm not sure there is startling difference but I now can at least use them if I want.
The Lumin app really takes some getting used to.  Kind of like an IPhone.  Just figure it out.  Anyway, to play a full album, when you find the album, click on the album picture and hold it.  Some icons will appear.  Select the one that has an arrow under the horizontal lines.  That should make the whole album play.  I also select favorites as soon as I can, so I have a long list of favorites.  Then I can go to the favorites and select the tracks icon, and then have music for hours.  
The only thing I can’t get this to do is make a radio station like Pandora or Spotify.  
Best of luck!
@trinhsman I do think there are issues with the network state that cause Tidal to not function. I am running Audirvana-Tidal. I had aabout 2 weeks of issues. I posted on the Audirvana forum and one of the code monkeys told me to change my browser DNS setting to Google's - 1.1.1.1. I did that and the issues were better until yesterday... when I had a heck of a time connecting to Tidal resources again
The Lumin app kind of sucks.  If you want to play an album, long press on the title, than a sub menu will pop up giving you the option to play all (an arrow with lines below it).

I've been using BubbleUpNP.  I think it's about 5 bucks for the version without ads.  There's a free version you can try to see if you like it.
Ok, the Lumin T2 came in yesterday about noon. I have spent some time with it and it does sound very good. I am unimpressed with the playback app. I think I must be missing something as I can only play one selection at a time unless I click on each song on an album to put it in the que. I surly must be overlooking something as this most incontinent. I can't believe this is the way it's intended to work. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of playback through streaming services? Thanks.
Working again.  I think I may have found the issue.  I have a Teac NT-505 that is my primary streamer in my main system.  The Oppo is in the basement system.  I had the Teac up and running.  It was connected, but not playing Tidal.  I decided to check on my Oppo and it would not play.  The app recognized the Oppo, and Tidal loaded, but it just would not play.  Today, before I turned on my Teac I decided to try the Oppo.  It worked flawlessly.  Wondering if something disrupts things when both streamers are connected to Tidal.  Anyway, I’ve tried it 2 more times and it works great.  I just make sure my Teac is turned off.
This is why I decided to buy a Lumin T2. It will be here tomorrow between noon and 4;00. I will let everyone know what I think after a few days.
Well, back to not working.  This time it won’t work with MconnectLite either.  Player connected to internet with 100% signal and says its connected.  MconnectLite doesn’t recognize player.  Oppo Media app recognizes player, but won’t play Tidal.  Tidal is on my IPad, but it won’t connect to the Oppo or even start to play.  Tried a firmware update, but the player says the server is not there.  Looks like Oppo is getting ready to hang a lot of people out to dry.
Happy to say mine came back as well. When I read it was working I logged in and got connected. Everything looked normal but when I hit play nothing happened. I went thru all the usual things of unplugging the Oppo for reset, removing the app and reinstalling and so on. Still nothing. I went into the Tidal settings and saw it had reverted to normal playback, I set it to HiFi and all is well. I know it makes little sense but it worked, if anyone else is having a similar issue try it.
I don’t have a problem running Tidal through my Oppo 205 via Roon. Great sound. 🇦🇺
I came home for lunch, and yes, all is good. I don't know what happened, but sure hope it does not happen again. YEA!!!
Obviously there are better streamers out there but they're very very expensive. Aurender is one of them. The audio quality that OPPO native streaming delivers is very hard to bet without spending thousands of dollars. I'm really very happy that everything is working fine again.
I thought I was the only one. I was bummed and was in contact with Oppo, and tried everything under the sun to figure out the problem but gave up! I
borrowed a high dollar streamer that I thought I was going to buy, but it just did not sound as good. Bummed again!!!!
This morning I woke up and tried it again just for the hell of it and BOOM SHAKALAKA!!!
Sounds great again, thank you Lord!
i have been Shopping streamers, and May continue. But maybe not as I simply have no idea what it will take to better what a I have!?
My OPPO 105 has many MOD improvements, never had any problem and works fine in every aspect. I would be very disappointed if Tidal native streaming service stops. Hope OPPO continue giving this good support. 
Connection fixed!!! My OPPO is native streaming TIDAL through Media Control App! Thank God! The audio quality is undoubtedly superior from Chromecast or any other third party app. Happy 😊 Very happy!
@jonandfamily your question makes absolute sense; am completely unqualified to reply but I swear the sound is significantly better streaming through the oppo app (something to do with how mconnect streams the MQA files that the oppo can’t play? The oppo DACS? No clue whatsoever) 
Please, help me understand! I didn't think the app affected the sound quality whether Oppo MediaControl vs. mconnect lite. I thought the app only controls the song selection and the software in the Oppo player is responsible for receiving and decoding the Tidal input stream. (My BDP105 is directly connected to my router via Cat6 ethernet cable). Is this not correct? If not, how do I stream Tidal through Oppo native streaming without the MediaControl app?
I have no interest in listening to lesser sounding apps or work-arounds. 
I have gotten spoiled I guess. I just can't do it. I'm going to wait a few more days and then I will get Bluesound and call it quits trying to stream through OPPO. I was hoping for a fix before I had to buy something else.
Playing in a high resolution stereo setup we can hear the difference. Dynamics, punch, controlled bass response and transparency are clearly better with native Oppo streaming.
Audio resolution quality is much much better through OPPO native streaming. Hope Oppo and TIDAL fix it as soon as possible.
mconnect truly works .. thanx! I find the sound quality not as good as before ... from hifi to a boomier alternative :(
I stream Oobuz from  BubbleUPnP on my phone to my OPPO 105. . Works fine. I prefer Qubuz to Tidal which I used to have.
@georgebenekos  I did what 2 others have suggested and downloaded the mconnect lite app which works fine, but it's "just different" and would prefer the oppo app back.

Have exactly the same issue (been streaming tidal through oppo 105 for more than two years), same “invalid token” since last week. Mailed both oppo and tidal support, oppo has referred the problem to tidal - tidal response pathetic so far.  Tidal streams fine through the Tidal app both on my ipad and iphone plus charges go through so tidal accountis fine.  Very, very frustrating! Exploring auraliv or bluenote option but would prefer sticking to my one box oppo alternative.
Hell-oooo GUYZ,

greetings from Slovakia...i am very sad about this situation....but I have found a solution...u can use mconnect lite app, which is available in appstore for ios, havent check for android plattform, but i guess it is there... just download it and it really works... just did it and i am happy now...
it also shows format, bit space, sampling frequency and a bit rate
enjoy
Same problem here Oppo105 and sorry native streaming from the player is much better than any other way I’ve found. I hope they fix soon 😫. 
Hi, everybody! I a OPPO 105 user and the same issue is happening with me since last thursday. I emailed OPPO and they told me the same. That they are working with Tidal to solve the problem. Let's wait.
Same problem on my Modwright modified Oppo BDP105. Hoping for a resolution soon!

I got a response from Oppo technical support they are aware of the issue and working a fix.  Hopefully it is a short wait and we should be back to normal use soon.
Mconnect HD works. Stinks to have to use it but I was ready to buy a whole new player. It’ll suffice for now.
With mconnect player you are doing UPnP casting to Oppo. There are multiple otherways if that is what is desired. However, this is different from natively playing Tidal on Oppo. I too feel bad missing Tidal on Oppo. Logged a support ticket with Tidal, hoping for a resolution.  So also informed Oppo Technical support, fingers crossed.  I was informed while Oppo stopped manufacturing their players they had enough resources left to support customers especially technical problems for few more years.
well, my issue is that I paid for Audirvana and I am actually sold on the sound quality..it delivers more heft, pace and timing as well as the pleasing frequency response...drives me nuts that Audirvana does not have direct support but the do answer issues in the Forum..
I had the same problem too.  A member from another forum suggested downloading a third party app "mconnect Player" which works on iPhone (I'm not sure whether there is any android verison), and using this app instead of the OPPO app to control streaming music via the OPPO player.

I downloaded the free Lite version and now I can use it to stream music from TIDAL through my OPPO 105.  It seems that in addition to TIDAL, you could also stream music from Qobuz as it is shown in the Browser of the app.
Maybe too many users due to Corona lock down? If that were the issue you would think they would just say so. I think it's a pissing match between the two, OPPO/Tidal. Neither whats to take responsibility for the problem.
i think it is an integration issue that is affecting more than Oppo owners...my issues have been about a week, maybe 2
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there is some current issue with Tidal, I think
Lately I have been having login and disconnect issues with Tidal and Nirvana. Audirvana always launches but sometimes I cannot see any Tidalstreams, only local resources. I can however login to Tidal app and stream. I and many users have launched this issue with Audirvana, hopefully they can fix it.
Just got a response from TIDAL support.

"I'm sorry to hear you're having trouble with your device log in!

We've investigated this issue and have found it's an integration issue with Oppo connecting to TIDAL.

We do advise connecting with the Oppo Customer Support team for how to proceed.

You can reach them here:

https://www.oppodigital.com/Support.aspx

They will be able to help you through managing this issue.

If you have any further issues please let us know- I'd be happy to help!"

But there is no more changes from Oppo, right?
Me and my friend both have a Oppo 103 and have same problem. Can we expect this to solved or is the conclusion that Oppo is a dead end if you what to listen to Tidal? Really a shame and very disappointing 😕 Already looking at Audiolab 6000n but would prepare just to continue with my Oppo. 😩
Philip from Denmark
One of my players is hard wired, the other is wireless. Both have the same issue. When two people are trying to use the same account in Tidal, it will pause one of them. This is a different issue.      
I am having the same issue. I read on another site it might be a licensing issue. I am not sure what I will do from here, I have a 103 and a 105.