The science of opinion ...


Some may find this interesting (it is).

Some may find this threatening (it isn't, it is science).

Some may read it and use it to help them understand the dynamics of internet forums.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0078433
atdavid

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atdavid
nothing I say will speak as loudly as the silence ... the silence of addressing what I say
That silence - which you acknowledge speaks more loudly than your wordy screeds - reflects the nature of your vacuous renderings.
atdavid
First, what is the goal of the test? Is it to prove that A is better than B? ... nope, that would require a properly administered test (which by the way is not hard, just requires methodology)
No, our goal is to validate or disprove the claims ...
So, you see, proving or disproving these claims does not require a highly detailed scientific study
You can set any goal for your test that you like. If you want it to be scientifically valid, you'll have to follow established protocols for that.  It's often not as easy as it looks!
... proving something true to a level of reasonable doubt (we are talking a subjective subject) does require a somewhat robust experiment. However, we are not trying to prove something is true, we are trying to prove something is false ...
Again, you can set any goal for your test that you like, even going so far as to refer to yourself as "we." But please don't come here and demand that others conduct a test for you. "We" have no such obligation. This is a hobbyist's group.
atdavid
I am not making claims (for the most part), though I may be refuting claims.
You’ve made plenty of claims here, some of them especially absurd.
I am quite certain of something, if someone is spending real money to set up the acoustics for a professional studio, they certainly aren’t going to be hiring geoffkait, not thyname, and sorry teo_audio, but outside your sphere of influence, not you either.
There are about 7.7 billion people in the world, but somehow you are "quite certain" that none - absolutely no one! - would engage these folks for help.
The burden of proof has always been on the one making the claim ... "Trust me" ... only gets you so far.
This is not a scientific group, it’s a hobbyist’s group. No one here owes you documentation of anything. As for the "trust me" part - that’s applies to you, too.
It is totally totally weird how easy it is to set up something approaching a controlled situation for proving claims (and increasing sales) in audio, and yet no one does. I don’t mean most don’t do it, I don’t mean it is not done very often, I mean well never
It isn’t really clear what you’re saying here, but you’re completely mistaken if you believe that setting up a valid controlled scientific listening test is easy. Those that I’ve seen conduct such tests go to great lengths to ensure their validity.

But of course, that isn’t quite what you said, you said it’s easy to set up a test that’s "approaching a controlled situation." Such a test isn’t scientific at all, of course, so its value is no better than the sighted tests that you decry.

Once again, we have a contributor here who pleads with others to conduct the sort of listening tests he himself refuses to do. What’s with that? Beware the audio guru.