The Science of Cables

cleander, If I read your comment correctly in your last post, I believe you may be referring to the subjective perception of the efficacy of Schroeder method in more modest systems. 

I assert that there is an absolute relationship in terms of performance, that a higher end rig, a more capable system, will always benefit/reveal relatively more than a mid to lower end system.  YMMV 

My wording on he last paragraph is vague; I have used two digital sources, CD transport and file playback. The AES/EBU is an analogue output. I have done double ICs on source to preamp, source to integrated DAC, and preamp to amp. I had previously tried the MF transport's SPDIF output with Schroeder Method successfully as well.

Regarding something that actually has potential to benefit audiophiles' systems, last night I disassembled the digital source, as I am sending back the SONORE Signature Rendu SE for an upgrade, and I reverted back to my MF transport feeding the Exogal Comet DAC and Ion Power DAC combo. I will be reporting on the upgrades to the Signature Rendu SE and Exogal Ion Powerdac's HyperDrive upgrade in due time at Dagogo.com 

The pertinence of this post is that I once again used the Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement with the transport's AES/EBU output. It is superlative, definitively high quality as a link. I did two different cables in this configuration, the much less expensive Audio Sensibility manufactured Schroeder Method XLR 1M with their least expensive IC cable. It was very good, well worth pursuing by budget oriented audiophiles. 

Then, I went to the assembled Clarity Cable Organic IC put together with Audio Sensibility's silver XLR Y Cables prepared for Schroeder Method. WOW! I am stunned and VERY happy with that outcome! I have never heard any Redbook source, even $10K players using single ICs, in my room with close to this erudition (I presume similar benefits could be obtained by those with high end players)! The Kingsound King III electrostatic speakers sound wonderfully pure, coherent (they are what I described in the review as Line Source ESL; multiple ESL drive units stacked), and now with the Ion with HyperDrive phenomenally powerful in the low end. Assessed by distinct, separate comparisons from the cable changes. 

Imo the digital application of Schroeder Method with digital source in the two instances I have tried is a rousing success. AES/EBU with this unit is very sensitive to such cable changes. I do not wish to overly boast of this, but it is becoming clearer to me that this has the potential to revolutionize passive system setups. In the end active systems may sound flat out worse than passive speakers with Schroeder Method cabling. I would expect our skeptics to mock that assessment, but if they actually ever tried things they would find out.

Sorry, that was a jumbled mess of posts I did! I shouldn't rush my posts, bad things happen in regards to descriptions of systems. One of the downsides of building so many systems is that I occasionally describe the connections incorrectly. Mea Culpa.

Let me try again; Simply put, the AES/EBU Schroeder Method digital link (XLR acting as AES/EBU) is going from the MF transport to the Exogal Comet DAC. I had done a double SPDIF link earlier many weeks ago, but I cannot recall which DAC I was using. Now, this is the second time I have done a Schroeder Method digital link, both times superb results. 

dave_b, is your reference to, "I can’t help but smile and laugh at the contortions and mental gymnastics many audiophiles put themselves through, attempting to find that one special way to connect their components that will leave all the others in the dust, an inference that my Schroeder Method is negligible? If so, what evidence do you have for that conclusion? 

I applaud your willingness to try this, roberjerman! I hope that it will be a fun and eye/ear opening experience! If I had not such a long history of trying various methods and configurations I likely would not have had the courage to try it. I have had so many unexpectedly good results from alternative setups that I couldn't discount the possibility of something good coming from it. I will be curious as to your experience, which I'm sure you would be happy to share here. I have had very good results going from source to preamp. 

rocknss, at this time I know of no minimal length necessary. If I were to speculate on the outcomes with sorter ICs, imo a shorter IC is always preferred in all situations (I know there are others who disagree; I'm not interested in opening up a debate on that). My guess is that a comparable benefit of Schroeder Method would be realized by using shorter ICs as to longer ICs. If the IC is about 1 foot long, I would think that to be agreeable to the method. I will also be curious about your results. 

roberjerman, would you like to try the Schroeder Method of Interconnect Placement? How about being one of the very few skeptics who is willing to actually try it to see whether their skepticism is justified? I find most skeptics are entrenched, putting much more confidence in their skepticism than is warranted. Are you willing to test that by trying the Schroeder Method, or will you continue to be closed to an assessment of whether your own perspective is justified? 

Two of our skeptics stated here that they were going to try Schroeder Method of IC placement. That was more than a month ago. 

Why, yes, the obtuse, impractical discussion here is coruscating! ;)
After all, who needs a practical, powerful method for improving an audio system? Why on earth spend time on that?

Your thoughts are hardly novel. See the thread on the cable forum that bears my name to catch up. :)