There are simply two kinds of music, good music and the other kind ... the only yardstick by which the result should be judged is simply that of how it sounds. If it sounds good it's successful; if it doesn't it has failed. -- Duke Ellington
This purpose of this thread is to provide a place to post outstanding examples of the Good Music. Genre Immaterial.
Notes: "Ellington is Forever' is a celebration of immortality. The participants individually and collectively demonstrate their appreciation of the heritage bequeathed by the Maestro by enriching the music with each man's personal interpretation. It is an exchange of gifts."
The Knights : The Knights are proud to be known as "one of Brooklyn's sterling cultural products...known far beyond the borough for their relaxed virtuosity and expansive repertory" (The New Yorker)
Notes: "This CD therefore brings together two of the greatest concertos for violin and orchestra in the entire repertory of Western music."
Notes: "A sense of time is perhaps the most important weapon in the Jazz soloist's armoury, for it is something purely instinctive, which means that those without it can never hope to acquire it."
Goes on to talk about the different approaches to time taken by Jackson and Pass.
Excellent explanation, clearly stated! As always. When you have time would you talk about Opera, the rehearsals and the performance. Who is in charge? We know a conductor directs the orchestra, but is any direction given to the singers during the performance? And if so, who does it? Who is responsible for keeping it all together?
**** Is the difference in meaning between TONE and INTONATION in music the same as it is in speech? ****
Interesting question. Not quite the same, but related.
The meaning of “tone” can be said to be the same in both speech and in music. One could say, for example, “Miles’ voice had a raspy tone”; or, “Johnny Hodges had a sweet tone on alto”; just as one could say the same about the character of the sound of a person’s voice. In both cases it refers to the timbral quality of the person’s voice or player’s tone.
“Intonation” has to do with pitch (higher/lower). In speech, the meaning of intonation refers to the rise and fall of the pitch of a person’s voice; used for expressivity and is a big part what we call a person’s ethnic “accent”. In music, “intonation” has to do with the rise and fall of the pitch of the notes in a musician’s playing or singing. HOWEVER, in music this deals with the accuracy of the player’s pitch relative to an agreed upon standard/reference. In an orchestra, before the beginning of a concert, the oboe gives the tuning note; an “A”, most commonly (but not always) A=440 hz. The entire orchestra will use that pitch as a reference; not a little bit higher or lower. In a Jazz setting, the piano’s tuning is the standard. The piano is usually tuned to A=440, give or take a couple of hertz. It is the only instrument in the band that has no flexibility to adjust the tuning on the spot, so it becomes the reference. The bass player and horn players will tune to that reference. The saxophone player’s “A” should be exactly the same as the piano’s. If the piano is tuned a little high, a saxophone player has to push his mouthpiece further unto the neck of the horn, thus shortening the length of the instrument slightly and causing the pitch to be higher. If the piano has been tuned a little low, the saxophone player has to pull the mouthpiece out a little on the neck, thus essentially making the length of the instrument’s tubing a little longer which causes the pitch to go lower. The goal is always for everyone to be “on the same page” pitch (intonation) wise.
Johnny Hodges not only had a sweet tone, but his sense of intonation was great. Jackie Maclean, on the other hand, always played sharp; his pitch center was higher than that laid down by the other instruments. He just heard things that way. Some players have a tendency to play a little under, or a little over the communal pitch center. They simply hear things that way. Most times its subtle and sometimes even manipulated for effect. Other times, when it’s too far in one direction or the other it can be perceived as a “tone” issue when, in reality, it is an “intonation” (pitch) issue. If he were playing by himself with no piano or bass establishing a pitch center, it wouldn’t be noticed (unless the listener has “perfect pitch”).
If you’re serious, it’s actually a fabulous tone. It’s his intonation that is weird. He plays consistently sharp. It got even worse in that respect later in his career, but he swings his ass off.
Keepnews Collection : The series follows a specific set of ground rules. In each case the original product is preserved -- cover art, the notes, and the entire initial recorded content, in the exact original sequence -- and it is now presented with the sonic benefits of 24-bit remastering from the original master tapes. Alternate takes or originally unissued numbers, when available, appear as bonus tracks.
Freddie Hubbard(trumpet), Jackie McLean(alto sax), Kenny Drew(piano), Doug Watkins(bass), Pete La Roca(drums)
Blue Note 1961 / 1989
Notes: "The Blues are here to stay. They pre-dated Jazz, helped form it and have been present through all it’s periods. Jazz without the Blues would be a body minus it’s spine. In retrospect, it is ironic to remember that Charlie Parker was derided by his many critics for having no feeling and accused of leaving Jazz to play another music, when all the time he was basically a powerful Blues player."
Hampton Hawes(piano), Red Mitchell(bass), Chuck Thompson(drums)
Contemporary / OJC 1955-56 / 1987
Notes: Hawes explained that Charlie Parker's influence on him was as strong, or stronger, than any pianist. "It was Bird's conception of time that influenced me most," he explained, "and made me realize how important meter and time are in Jazz to make it swing."
I agree the playing is great, but I wasn’t that impressed with the record SQ. Turns out it’s in Mono, so that might be why it sounds sort of different. Oscar is usually more in your face.
Great player! He is about to be featured in a concert at Carnegie with the American Symphony that recreates some of Ellington’s large scale works. On drums, Wynton’s ‘s little brother Jason.
Notes: "The most important point that I can see is that the Jazz musician of the future will have to be able to play all different kinds of Jazz-in all its treatments-just like the classical musician who, in one concert range from Bach to Copeland." -- James P. Johnson, 1947.
Notes: "The best thing that ever happened to television happened on CBS between five and six in the afternoon on Sunday, December 8. At least that was where and when it happened first; the program may have been run at a different hour and date in your part of the country, and -- if there is any justice -- it will be repeated, the more often the better. It was an installment in *The Seven Lively Arts* series called *The Sound of Jazz,* and as far as I'm concerned, you can throw away all previous standards of comparison. This is where television began to amount to something."
Notes: "While never an innovator, Turrentine (1934-200) was surely one of Blue Note's key players in the field of "soul Jazz", the strongly Blues-based, Gospel-influenced branch of hard bop, which itself was a simplified take on the vertiginously complex bebop form..... CTI, like Blue Note, had a "look" as well....CTI's covers featured color compositions of gallery quality by some of America's leading photographers."
Notes: "Jimmy Smith's story is an unusual one because he single-handedly introduced an instrument into the modern Jazz mainstream and created a sound and a style to go with it. What is most unusual is that he did not even approach the instrument until he was 28 years old, and he did not play a gig under his own leadership or record an album of his own until he was 29."
I agree the Germans are beginning to pull their heads out of their rear ends. About time. This does seem like 1938 all over again. People NEVER learn anything from history.
When the Soviet Union broke up, they left a lot of nukes in Ukraine. That made Ukraine the world's third largest nuclear power at that time. I think they gave them all to the U.S. for disposal. I know they wish they had them now.
I fear a lot the military aid being sent might arrive just in time for the Russians to get it. ☹
Germans sent a load of anti-tank missiles to day , Briits have send all kinds of stuff, Canada ammo and believe it or not Canadians have great cybor which has been there. Almost all NATO boys are doing what they must .
The best news is Sweden and Finland are coming on board . Russians know what the bad-ass fins are like.
True but not much known , Sweden has the best plane for plane air force there is,
a hundred Swedish Grippens would end it all .
A fantastic thing took place, ,engineers put out TNT for a bridge the Russians were using for tanks , which was using set off by radio , but radio did not work.
One soldier just stood up and went down and set it off with his hand and himself . How brave can a man be !
God Bless the Ukrainians .
P..S . I don’t see them given up any time soon . The President saying "I need ammo, not a ride " did much for moral . Country is a big as Texas Lots of forests to strike from.
Putin may have made the mother of all miscalculations. If we can get the Ukrainians ammunition and the anti-armor and anti aircraft missiles / weapons in time, I am sure the Ukrainians can deal with the Russian Infantry. Remember STINGER got the Soviets out of Afghanistan.
In any event, I think this will open the eyes of the world, and esp NATO countries, to the threat which did not go away with the fall of the wall, if anything, it became more dangerous. It will also expose the Russian military.
Speaking of good things rok2id , I could have told Putin that people fighting on their own land fight like hell .
From what I have seen on TV last night logistics have got the Ukraines those self-tracking shoulder missiles "cus it alone could blow up the 2 Russian air strikes I saw blow up!
No joke , If I was there I would grab an AK ., I’m still strong and a great shot .
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