@audiolabryinth. Uh oh Keith you got to defend your system. Ears don't lie! Well I think that system matching is very important. Cables are important but up to a point. I believe in having really good cables but I also believe in having great components and speakers. My system is not made of household names. I have a gato fm6 speaker. They are newer and have great technology in them. My integrated amplifier is made by KR audio. Va 900. Nicknamed the baby Kronzilla. My dac is resonessence labs mirus. Made by the brother of the maker of the sabre dac chip. I use a mix of high fidelity cables, atlas mavros and clarity cable. I think you can get great sound out of older equipment but I think there have been some great advances in sound, speaker, dac, and cable technology. I think you should have a great mix of all. There is a point that I won't go past as far as cable price. I try to match what I spend in my system and even it out. I would not put 40,000 in cables on 4,000 worth of gear. I would put 4 to 8k in cabling on 40k of gear. To me that's comparative but to each his on. I have a great amount invested in cabling right now but I have some really great Gear with newer technology. Just my opinion. Not judging anyone.
Sts, I have nothing to prove to you, lol, however, I have nos mullard m10 tubes, $500,00 each in the Vincent cds7 player, with furutech Rhodium outlet and aluminum wall frame, and $5,000.00 taralabs Cobalt with oyaida terminations for the power cord to the pkayer, the krell 700cx is the only one worldwide that is modified to this extent by krell then selfs, two year's and $11,000.00 of doing this to this amp, and running directly to this amp with taralabs zero gold with grounding station one meter is astonishing! , lol, are you trying to tell me what I hear is an illusion? Really?
Re posted from another thread, 10-28-15: Mikelavigne I've recently jumped into the very deep end of the pool with interconnects for my 2 new dacs.
I purchased a set of Tara Labs Grandmaster Evolution w/HFX 1.5m XLR's for my Trinity Dac. these are the ones with the floating shield design and dual monoblock HFX ground system.
sorry to say that these cables indeed are the real deal. what they do is astonishing in terms of noise floor and revealing detail and musical refinement.
I've ordered another set of these in 2m RCA's for my Lampizator Golden Gate.
I wish they did not do what they do; but now that I've heard it there is no going back.
my system does allow for all the benefits of these 'uber' cables to come through. my new dart preamp enables them to shine.
crazy good!
don't listen if you might be tempted. I made that mistake. Mikelavigne (System | Reviews | Threads | Answers | This
Extreme Audio Systems and Extreme Performance Cables with Low Inductance
At TARA Labs, the major design goal for speaker cables is to reduce the inductance in the cable. However, there are some high-end amplifiers that need to 'see' some level of inductance (L) in the speaker cable. When the low damping factor of certain amplifiers is connected with (ultra-low inductance) TARA Labs speaker cables, the output of some high-end loudspeakers becomes audibly variable at different frequencies.
The phenomenon is readily apparent, heard as bass that is soft and low in amplitude, sometimes together with high frequencies that are too smooth or rolled-off. Basically, the resistance in the loudspeaker cable should be ultra-low, and the inductance (L) in the cable needs to be low but sufficient to provide a load to certain amplifiers. There is no ideal value for (L). It varies from system to system, just as impedance varies with frequency in most loudspeakers.
The loudspeaker cables carry much higher signal voltage and current into a non-linear impedance (the loudspeaker) ... so the reactive load of the loudspeaker can be difficult for some amplifiers to drive... and the all-important damping factor of the amplifier changes from amplifier to amplifier.
One of the great attributes of the OMEGA Evolution & Grandmaster Evolution Speaker Cables is their ultra-low inductance. The OMEGA Evolution & Grandmaster Evolution Speaker Cables are the 'state-of-the-art' in both technology and design from TARA Labs. Its performance level is absolutely spectacular when matched with the majority of high-end audio components available today. And as with an ever increasing introduction of new components into the marketplace, we have found over and over again that not every cable or component has the perfect symbiotic relationship with each other. In these particular instances, there are some amplifiers that need to 'see' some level of inductance (L) in the speaker cable. For certain loudspeakers and amplifiers, TARA Labs has produced another addition to the line-up with the Omega Evolution SP & Grandmaster Evolution SP speaker cables. These cables are designed to work exceptionally well with amplifiers with a low damping factor or loudspeakers with a very reactive load in the lower frequencies.
Another choice is the *OMEGA CX Evolution loudspeaker cable with its slightly higher inductance, used especially with wide-bandwidth amplifiers.
*The Omega Evolution CX model is a more affordable version of the Omega Evolution SP. Having similar characteristics as the “SP”, yet at a lower price. For the speaker cable that requires a higher inductance, or used with wide-bandwidth amplifiers, the Omega Evolution SP and the Grandmaster Evolution SP are the ultimate cable choices.
*The recommendations below are “just a few examples” to help guide the user in choosing the appropriate TARA Labs Evolution loudspeaker cables. These examples are meant as a guide only, and are based on load impedance for loudspeakers and damping factor for amplification. Call TARA Labs to discuss your system and any particular recommendations.
EQUIPMENT EXAMPLES
Omega Evolution CX – Avalon speakers, Spectral, Wilson speakers (smaller and older models)
*NOTE – The above equipment samples are only meant as a guide to help advise you on the best cable for your setup. As with all TARA Labs cables, when you move up the line to more expensive models, the TARA Labs characteristics that our cables are known for such as neutrality and natural musicality is always present. What you will hear is additional high frequency extension, detail, musicality, fullness, etc.
CABLE CHARACTERISTICS
Omega CX - A very balanced set of LC parameters.
Omega Evolution & Grandmaster Evolution – These cables has extremely low inductance.
Omega Evolution SP & Grandmaster Evolution SP – Provides more inductance for certain models wide-bandwidth amplifiers and speakers that require addition inductance in their cables. These cables are designed to work exceptionally well with amplifiers with a low damping factor or loudspeakers with a very reactive load in the lower frequencies.
I'm curious to know who are musicians that are audiogon member's, so many music lover's, you would think their would be musicians too, if so, who are you and where do you live, and what do you do or play?, would you be willing to try out a cord like the one above?
Sts, have you seen this new cable Taralabs is making now for musicians?,PROFESSIONAL STUDIO CABLE
This cable is made exclusively for the recording studio. *The PX silentPLUG is fantastic for this cable as it allows a musician to unplug and switch instruments in the recording studio without the hassle of turning down/off your amplifier. (*See below CABLE TERMINATION)
INSTRUMENT CABLE INFORMATION
TARA Labs has taken its incredible thirty year expertise in cutting edge technology & design, and developed a high-end instrument cable. Used with guitar, bass, keyboards, or in the recording studio. Used in recordings by Stanly Clarke, Patrice Rushen, Kenny Burrell, and endorsed by such legendary musicians and producers as; Larry Carlton, David Benoit, Nathan East, Jeffrey Webber, in addition to such prestigious venues such as Carnegie Hall, Capitol Records studio, Sony studio.
CABLE CONSTRUCTION
Every TARA Labs cable is custom hand-crafted to order in Oregon, USA. The construction of this cable begins with our RSC (Rectangular Solid Core) SA-8NOF (Super-annealed, oxygen-free, mono-crystal, frequency-tuned, hand-polished 99.999999% pure copper conductors. This is covered with advanced Aero-PE dielectrics and skid-resistance outer sleeve.
CABLE TERMINATION
TARA Labs also makes available the “silentPLUG” for cable termination. The new PX silentPLUG automatically mutes (shorts) an instrument (guitar) cable to avoid pops and squeals when changing the instrument (guitar) under load. The integrated silent switch is based on REED-technology and guarantees a lifetime beyond 10 '000 mating cycles. The new PX silentPLUG features a rugged metal shell enhanced with a rubber cushion overlay for improved shock protection. The plug itself is gold plated. The “silentPLUG” is exceptional when used in situation where instruments are being interchanged, without having to either turn-down or turn-off the amplifier. All termination is gold-plated.
*Straight plug & Right angle plug available / ¼” mono or stereo termination connectors are available
CABLE SOUND
You will hear exquisite high frequency extension, tight bass, spatial cues, and full mid-range that is detailed and open. A low-noise floor, and excellent sound-stage. Both cable models offer superior quality. These cables are far beyond any other high-end instrument cables available in the marketplace today. Endorsed by the worlds leading recording studios, music venues, and musicians.
For musicians and producers who demand the very best in equipment, instruments and recording.
WARRANTY
All TARA Labs cables have a lifetime guarantee against manufacturer defects.
Sts, fair enough if you are referring to sales of your cable's, I'm intrigued of knowing what you have for audio equipment, will you share that with me? , cheers.
Hi sts, can one justify paying for an amp that cost $40,000.00 for 300 watts mono blocks like the Dan D'Agostino Momentum amp's?,depend's on if the rest of the system can reproduce what these amp's are capable of doing, it is the same theory with this cable.
Sts,The Grandmaster also has a proprietary dielecteic's, there is unimaginable sound difference between the 2 model's you are speaking of,I have the Zero Gold model, does it justify the cost between the model, The One, of course it does!
Calvinj, the mullard Military spec model tubes are the best, however, they are $400.00 to $500.00 a piece, the good news, they are nos tubes, and last 10,000 to 11,000 hrs!, man o man, you owe it to yourself to try em.
Sts, the Grandmaster has the gen 3 conductors, that is not found in any other model they have, it is a new proprietary conductor design, I have blogged here numerous times about it.
Ok fellas, just saw the responses. I always wanted to hear what the other Tara labs sounded like. I'm going to look and see how the compare to the atlas mavros and the high fidelity cables I use. I also sometimes use clarity cable Im going to try all of this out and see what happens. Good heads up on pricing. We will see how they help or hurt my system. Will be good to actually talk about sound for a change.
@audiolabyritnth yes I have been tube rolling my E.A.R. Acute CD player. First tubed upper end CD player I had that ayon cd2s debacle. I use it for my cd's then I use the resonessence mirus for my other files. I have dsd files on a sd card that play on my dac's sd card slot.
Taralabs is not selling all their models direct, nor are the cables they are selling directly new!, read what the ad says, lol, you cannot get their best cables at 40% discounts!, as a matter of fact, most companies will sell direct to you if their isn't any dealers in your area, krell will sale to me direct,etc...
This is a joke! If you go to Agon under Selling you will see Tara Labs is offering all cables at 40% off retail, they claim they are "demo" cables but I now know several dealers dropping Tara cables because they can't compete with Tara selling direct at 40% off. Those customers who bought from a dealer just lost a lot of $$$, those new customers can get a good deal but will not be able to sell their cable but at a fraction of retail. I'm staying away from this brand now sorry to say.
This is a recent email I received from my friend Devon at TARA Labs,
Hi Keith,
I hope all is well with you.
I wanted to give you some news regarding our new “Direct to consumer” cable loaner program. Perhaps you can blog about this on Audiogon when you get a chance.
TARA LABS CABLE LOANER PROGRAM
Please contact us at: customerservice@taralabs.com
Listening to a demo cable in your dealers showroom, may not let you really hear how it'll really sound once you bring it home. To know how the cable will sound, you need to listen to it in your own home audio systems components, surrounded by whatever acoustical setup you have in your home. Only by listening to a cable in this manner, will you will truly know what it will sound like.
TARA Labs now offers you this great opportunity! Not only do you get to hear our audio cables in your home, you also save the time and effort of having to drive to your dealer’s show-room.
We have a wide variety of mid to hi-fi audio cables available for home demo (Cable list at the bottom of this page)
This program will enable you to actually hear the difference that TARA Labs cables make in your home audio system. We know that you'll love them! If not, for any reason, return them to us for a refund of your deposit.
*Cable Loaner program is only available in the USA.
HERE’S HOW IT WORKS!
1) You can choose to listen up to three different cables at one time (Interconnects, speaker & AC power cables)
2) To participate, your contact info and “loaner-deposit” is given to TARA Labs. This is done by email or phone: (541) 488 – 6465 / customerservice@taralabs.com
3) Cables are shipped to your home. You have one week to listen, then send back loaner cables.
4) If you decide to buy, new cables will be sent to you. If not, your deposit (minus shipping charges) is returned to you. Easy!
>>09-04-15: Audiolabyrinth You ever mention my name here with dishonesty and trash this thread, I will have you banned axx hxxx, now laugh at that<<
Ok labyrinth I'm still here now pay attention. I know you're not too bright. Here goes: LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Thanks for the opportunity to laugh. It's good for the soul.
@anyone. Are there any Tara labs owners with talk of how they work or sound in their systems. Would like to know actual real life owners in real life system performance.
@zephyr24069. They are a good speaker. I won't be buying a speaker again for a long time. With the kr audio va 900 *AKA* "The Baby Kronzilla" the sound is sublime and intoxicating. Great match for me.
Extreme Audio Systems and Extreme Performance Cables with Low Inductance
At TARA Labs, the major design goal for speaker cables is to reduce the inductance in the cable. However, there are some high-end amplifiers that need to 'see' some level of inductance (L) in the speaker cable. When the low damping factor of certain amplifiers is connected with (ultra-low inductance) TARA Labs speaker cables, the output of some high-end loudspeakers becomes audibly variable at different frequencies.
The phenomenon is readily apparent, heard as bass that is soft and low in amplitude, sometimes together with high frequencies that are too smooth or rolled-off. Basically, the resistance in the loudspeaker cable should be ultra-low, and the inductance (L) in the cable needs to be low but sufficient to provide a load to certain amplifiers. There is no ideal value for (L). It varies from system to system, just as impedance varies with frequency in most loudspeakers.
The loudspeaker cables carry much higher signal voltage and current into a non-linear impedance (the loudspeaker) ... so the reactive load of the loudspeaker can be difficult for some amplifiers to drive... and the all-important damping factor of the amplifier changes from amplifier to amplifier.
One of the great attributes of the OMEGA Evolution & Grandmaster Evolution Speaker Cables is their ultra-low inductance. The OMEGA Evolution & Grandmaster Evolution Speaker Cables are the 'state-of-the-art' in both technology and design from TARA Labs. Its performance level is absolutely spectacular when matched with the majority of high-end audio components available today. And as with an ever increasing introduction of new components into the marketplace, we have found over and over again that not every cable or component has the perfect symbiotic relationship with each other. In these particular instances, there are some amplifiers that need to 'see' some level of inductance (L) in the speaker cable. For certain loudspeakers and amplifiers, TARA Labs has produced another addition to the line-up with the Omega Evolution SP & Grandmaster Evolution SP speaker cables. These cables are designed to work exceptionally well with amplifiers with a low damping factor or loudspeakers with a very reactive load in the lower frequencies.
Another choice is the *OMEGA CX Evolution loudspeaker cable with its slightly higher inductance, used especially with wide-bandwidth amplifiers.
*The Omega Evolution CX model is a more affordable version of the Omega Evolution SP. Having similar characteristics as the “SP”, yet at a lower price. For the speaker cable that requires a higher inductance, or used with wide-bandwidth amplifiers, the Omega Evolution SP and the Grandmaster Evolution SP are the ultimate cable choices.
*The recommendations below are “just a few examples” to help guide the user in choosing the appropriate TARA Labs Evolution loudspeaker cables. These examples are meant as a guide only, and are based on load impedance for loudspeakers and damping factor for amplification. Call TARA Labs to discuss your system and any particular recommendations.
EQUIPMENT EXAMPLES
Omega Evolution CX – Avalon speakers, Spectral, Wilson speakers (smaller and older models)
*NOTE – The above equipment samples are only meant as a guide to help advise you on the best cable for your setup. As with all TARA Labs cables, when you move up the line to more expensive models, the TARA Labs characteristics that our cables are known for such as neutrality and natural musicality is always present. What you will hear is additional high frequency extension, detail, musicality, fullness, etc.
CABLE CHARACTERISTICS
Omega CX - A very balanced set of LC parameters.
Omega Evolution & Grandmaster Evolution – These cables has extremely low inductance.
Omega Evolution SP & Grandmaster Evolution SP – Provides more inductance for certain models wide-bandwidth amplifiers and speakers that require addition inductance in their cables. These cables are designed to work exceptionally well with amplifiers with a low damping factor or loudspeakers with a very reactive load in the lower frequencies.
Yes. I know the guy. They retail at $14,000 and they have to be shipped direct from Denmark or from the dealer in Scotland. You won't find them anywhere else in the United States. You know I change speakers a lot but these are my last speaker at least for the next 8 years or more. I'm extremely happy. Paired with my kr audio it puts me in the audio matrix.
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