The HK 930 is past it's prime by today's standards. I like an integrated such as the Rega Brio. Speakers such as Dynaudio 42. The Adcom 600 DAC is a real find, I've owned one and loved it. Good luck.
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I'm new to AudiogoN so apologies if this kind of thing has been discussed before.
I am trying to put together a budget system that I can be happy with for many years. (I am trying to put two sons through college so cost is a MAJOR factor).
I currently have an H/K 930 which serves me pretty well in the amp department, okay in the pre-amp department and very well in the tuner department. (I only spent $49 on it so it's a great value and sounds very good for the money).
I'm using a Marantz CD5000 as a transport and have an Adcom GDA-600 DAC.
My speakers are, in my opinion, the weakest link in the chain. They are Boston CR67s on decent, weighted stands.
My question is... If I'm only going to put about $1,000 into the system and may never spend another dime on it, what would be the best way to go? So far I'm looking at these alternatives.
1. Get some good efficient speakers like Triangles and let it go at that.
2. Same as #1 but also replace the DAC.
3. Same as #1 but also replace the Pre-amp and use the 930 as an amp.
4. Try to spend a little more and do #1 but add a "decent" amp like a Conrad 2250, McIntosh 7100, McCormack DNA125 or Audio Research D130.
My guess is my hearing will be gone before I can put much more money into it than that so I only get one shot at this. Any help I can get is greatly appretiated.
Thanks,
I am trying to put together a budget system that I can be happy with for many years. (I am trying to put two sons through college so cost is a MAJOR factor).
I currently have an H/K 930 which serves me pretty well in the amp department, okay in the pre-amp department and very well in the tuner department. (I only spent $49 on it so it's a great value and sounds very good for the money).
I'm using a Marantz CD5000 as a transport and have an Adcom GDA-600 DAC.
My speakers are, in my opinion, the weakest link in the chain. They are Boston CR67s on decent, weighted stands.
My question is... If I'm only going to put about $1,000 into the system and may never spend another dime on it, what would be the best way to go? So far I'm looking at these alternatives.
1. Get some good efficient speakers like Triangles and let it go at that.
2. Same as #1 but also replace the DAC.
3. Same as #1 but also replace the Pre-amp and use the 930 as an amp.
4. Try to spend a little more and do #1 but add a "decent" amp like a Conrad 2250, McIntosh 7100, McCormack DNA125 or Audio Research D130.
My guess is my hearing will be gone before I can put much more money into it than that so I only get one shot at this. Any help I can get is greatly appretiated.
Thanks,
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I have an HK930 and use it fairly often as part of a classroom teaching system (with a pair of Dynaco A25s) and as a nostalgia piece--a very long time ago, I used to sell them. It was a standout in its time and still gives very good sound for parts and a design that old. One upgrade option we have with this unit is replacing aging parts, especially capacitors and perhaps diodes and some resistors. I have no doubt that its sound would be improved that way, but unless I did the work myself the cost would soon run into the territory of a used NAD C320BEE. We also have the C320BEE at home, so I can compare from experience. The C320BEE does sound better to my ears. It doesn't have the bass weight and control provided by the 930's dual power supplies, but it is more detailed and transparent. If you replace the stock jumpers on the NAD's back panel (something you should also do for your 930), the sound loses forwardness and edge and the harmonic balance gets better. I also have a pair of Triangle speakers, the TItus ES, running off a tube integrated, an Audio Space AS-3i. This system is a big step up in refinement from the NAD, by the way, and a variant on it may be possible at close to your budget, with the Triangle Comète for example, and second-hand prices. However that is really another question. The most reasonable improvement path might be this: find a used C320BEE or C325BEE and a pair of Triangles. Replace the jumpers all round, speakers too. (I like single-crystal copper for this.) Have the 930's tuner aligned if it hasn't been done already. Use quality interconnects and speaker cables--Atlas Equator and Audioquest Type 4 would be my budget picks but you will find many other good ideas here too. Finally, if you don't have one already, look out for a good digital interconnect cable, an Apogee Wyde Eye at least, and make sure its length is 1.5 metres. I know, there has been controversy over the length issue, but the cable was a Stereophile recommendation all the same and I have tested different lengths myself. If, after having done all that, you don't feel the improvement is sufficient, you can resell the NAD and put the proceeds towards a tube integrated! |
Thanks for everyone's input so far. Tobias- I don't mind heating up a soldering iron if the results are worth it. Any suggestions on where I can get replacement parts and what upgrades you would make to the 930. I understand this is an old piece but it works and in some respects works well. If it was worth keeping in one or more of its applications, (Pre-amp, amp, tuner), I would want to do that since it would be one, (or more), less piece(s) to buy. I have toyed with the idea of connecting my CD/DAC directly to an amp, (the player has volume control), and a decent set of speakers. Obviously I give up the tuner, my vinyl collection and any other sources but I do wonder if the benefits might be worth it. I'm not looking for sonic perfection but I would like a system I can close my eyes and get lost in when the mood hits me. |
Tnkman62, any specific suggestions I might make re parts to replace in the 930 would be pure guesswork based on what I have read in posts from others who have tried refurbishing similar units. FWIW though, I would start with the power supply reservoir capacitors, perhaps bypassing these as well with smaller caps. Next I would rebuild the diode bridge with HEXFREDs. Then I would look at any caps near the outputs and also see about replacing the volume control (not much room to maneuver here though). Parts sources: I would try Michael Percy and PartsConnexion. http://www.percyaudio.com/ http://www.partsconnexion.com/ IMHO the 930's tuner is its best section. Next comes the power amp and finally the preamp. Given that a worthwhile standalone preamp is expensive (and BTW maddeningly hard to find IME), I would want to get a new integrated amp and use the 930 as a tuner if I were revamping your system. |
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