I bought a whole system of the a Element copper,and and 6 of the power cords .from $6-1200 .the system sound good but not earth shattering and I even Tried all the bullit combinations .i had their lowest 3 ft strip,plus conditioner
4 plug outlet.i have 2 dedicated awg10 lines right to the breaker box,and two 20 amp lines . It was a nightmare like 16 wires,and it was not neat.
Ion my system the Analysiis plus solo Crystal speaker cable is excellent, on top I use he MIT HD36 interconnect ,and this was a clear step up and I also tried theirTungston interconnect the MIT had more body and layering,the Synergistic did have a bit more air and a bit lighter sounding.
and then the extra charges $400 for each wall wart for the live shielding
That is a scam.i bought 2 .they made a improvement.My friend cut one open that stopped working there is maybe $20 in parts if you are lucky.
This should be standard in the price maybe $50 extra. Value as well as quality .this is just my opinion a lot of others don't mind the charges.
I working in audio retail for years and some markups are better then 10 x
Audio cables can be some of the worst in markups. I do like their fuses though. |
Used MIT for 14+ yrs and tried them again 2 yrs ago; don't care for Hi-Fi-ish sounding cables that strips the fabric and dimensionality from the music and one can be easily tricked into a more laid back and slightly forward midrange...
Compare them with these three cables; Acoustic Zen Absolute Copper, Clarity Cable Organic and Wywires, you will be shocked on what's missing... |
Audioman58, s.r. cable new element series cables blows away any other brand I've tried. And that includes MIT, Shunyta, Hi Diamond (crap), Tara labs, to name a few. It was most probably that your equipment was not up to snuff or you had something set up wrong. There are Thousands of happy S.R. Customers. Too bad you little isolated insident did not work for you. Provide more details and talk in complete sentences and maybe us S.R. Pros can help you out. Geez. BTW, the Transporter for the active shield blows away the Galileo MPC's and eliminates all the wall worts so there is no more clutter. If you want a reference system from S. R., you should start with one of these and get the CTS cables, PowerCell 10 SE and tranquility base, HFT's, FEQ, XOT and UEF bullets. It cost money and expensive components to own a true Reference System and lots of years of experience. |
Audioman58,
I see I am not alone in not being enthralled with SR cables.
I have never heard an SR cable that even came close to David Elrod cables. |
Guys,
My loaner XOT's came in a few days ago and I'm not impressed with their performance, lower floor noise and a slight increase in dynamics at the expense of musicality. Instruments appeared to be smaller in scale and didn't have the bloom which mimics a 3 dimensional image between your speakers.
Basically, my speakers lost their overall drive and sound quality on how sound is projected into the room. The XOT's are a no go for me... |
Wig,
This is the same impression I got from the Steinmusic Speaker Match tails. I like their Harmonizers very much but their Speaker Matches were a no-go for me. |
Hi Wig, Sorry they did not work out for you. Everyone's system is different. But I have to agree with Lwin on his comments on the XOT's above. In addition in my system the soundstage was liquid, transients just flow like water. Better in resolving detail because they were so quiet. Top to bottom.
Davidpritchard, how did they work out for you in your system? Good or bad? Thanks, Joe |
Joeyboynj;
I have seen you trash talk HiDiamond on these forums and we have all seen where you wrote that you borrowed HiDiamond from the Cable Company. Let me be very clear once again; we have never sold HiDiamond cables to the Cable Company and the Cable Company has never loaned Joeyboynj HiDiamond Cables.
I have never heard the new SR cable and I would never say I had heard them if I hadn't heard them. There are a few very good cable companies and cables can be personal preference but when you see a person blatantly trash talking a brand will only promoting one other brand than you need to take this persons integrity into account. I can assure you that if you read real HiDiamond owners opinions of HiDiamond, you will get a much more truthful opinion of the sound of HiDiamond Cables because those people have actually heard HiDiamond cables. This does not mean that SR cables are bad sounding because I am sure they are very good sounding but we should all take certain people with a grain of salt when they continue to trash certain brands will promoting other brands.
Cheers, |
In two previous post, yes, I mistakenly mentioned the cable company. Then in a later post, I corrected myself and said I borrowed the PC's from a close A-gon friend. Sorry for the mis-type, but I DID later correct myself and said I borrowed them. People make mistakes sometimes. Geez. |
Way back when these PCs came out. You offered me a discount to try them. I was interceded until I was told there was NO money back policy if I don't like the cords. Therefore, later I borrowed them from a friend and returned them. And I'm glad I did not take you on your offer I'd be stuck with PC's I didn't like in my system. Because the SR Element pc's work much better for me in my system. |
interceded = interested in above post. Sorry for another Typo. lol. |
I have SR Apex and PR Interconnects. They are open sounding cable with good soundstage. One of my MPC broke so I have opened it, I was utterly surprised , it was build with cheaper parts then $7 power adapter I had at hand. Why do they cost so much. So instead of spending $60 for replacement MPC I have used 30V, $7 worth power adapter with no degradation to sonics.
I have read about Galileo MPC how much they would improve the sound of Apex. But before I would invest $400 for power adapter (ridicules price IMHO), I made appointment with Synergistic dealer, I took very experienced audiophile friend with me. Dealer have whole system wired up with SR Tesla series (all Apex for IC and speakers ) , as Speakers he used Wilson Audio Sasha newest Audio Research classic 120 monoblock amplifiers some top preamplifier from AR and as CDP AudioAreao La Source.
First we listened with cheap MPCs, then dealer replaced all of them with Gallileo ones, after a few minutes of warm up, we tried to hear a difference. We could not, we try hard 4 times going back and forth. He help us by telling what we are supposed to hear. With his help we finally were able to here a minuscule differences on a level of perception. Maybe we force us to hear it, I would not bet one dollar bill on it.
He told us that the differences are really, really small and there is nothing wrong with us. I have come to that audition with desire to buy Galilleo MPC but after audition I would not buy them for $20 bucks I was Galileo cured. Even dealer was not able sincerely deny that Galileo MPC is rip off and that most people would not hear any difference.
I will not provide his name here, he was nice, honest guy and have spent several hours of his time for us.
I have never heard Elements series, but I have compared SR Apex at home with Tara Labs 0.8, cables better in some areas worse at some areas.
Sometime latter rich friend borrow me two runs of Tara Zero and Tara Omega for 3 months. I could not believe differences, they were huge, just different league. Details neutrality, no more high-end just pure music, pure magic.
I wish I could forget those 3 months, it was hard going back to SR Apex and Tara 0.8 I own.
And since Zero con can be found used for not much more then new SR cables Im thinking how does Elements CTS compares to used Zero ? |
Solowski I agree with your findings on the MPC's but I think you will be surprised if you try one of the Synergistic Research Transporters for cable shielding. I am a little surprised that the dealer you went to did not suggest this. I sold all my Galileo MPC's & I told one buyer who was looking to purchase more to try a Transporter before doing so. |
yes, I agree. The Transporter solves the Galileo MPC issue. Plus it costs less and sounds better than a Galileo MPC. IF you decide on S.R., a Transporter is a smart choice to save you many outlets lots more wires and has a better performance over the Galileo MPC's. |
