I have no knowledge of the interconnects you speak of but to me it's just easier to use a good interconnect that I like and not think of having to tune it. Just my opinion I'm sure others will disagree. |
There is no trick in using the cable with its accessories. If you like it, then its good, you owe no one else any apology for not liking what they do or following anyone else's audio philosophy either. |
"My concern is that this will turn out to be more snake oil and is actually tricking my mind into thinking it’s better. I wish I could find some more folks who have tried them."
If you can't decide as to weather or not you like the cables, I would wait. It seems like something is holding you back that you can't quite put your finger on. Personally, I find that cables that really do a lot to the sound usually don't hold up over time. Something good is usually happening at the expense of something else.
"I like the black bullets on jazz or very well recorded rock they make it sound bigger the stereo sound stage just envelopes the room. However a more edgy sounding distorted guitar sounds worse. For that the silver is better."
That's kind of what I'm talking about. It sounds like making the stage bigger may come at the expense of clarity. Or maybe a phase issue. I would keep the cables as long as your dealer lets you and if you are not sure, hold off. If you are using Cable Co, call them and see what they say. They are very honest and won't try to push something on you if you don't feel its the right thing.
"My concern is that this will turn out to be more snake oil and is actually tricking my mind into thinking it’s better. I wish I could find some more folks who have tried them."
What other people say is really not relevant. No one is more qualified than you are in this situation. |
The synergistic research element copper interconnect cable has received excellent reviews by Ultra Audio (ultraaudio.co)
and "The Absolute sound" where it is product of the year.
I believe this cable was designed for general use with the grey bullets.
Nyame |
Well I'm happy with them. I could not find any articles from either of those publications. I’m sure they are there Thanks |
There are many many reviews of these cables and other cables from Synergistic Research. Go to the S.R. Website and you can find links to dozen of reputable review websites. Also, a google search found me at least a dozen VERY positive reputable reviews.
I own these cables and they are the real deal. I have auditioned dozens other cables from The Cable Company and Synergistic Research were the very best in my system. Their technology is the real deal.
Have fun and always believe your ears!!! You have to experiment and see for yourself before you buy anything. |
Instead of reading reviews in published magazines you should try the Hidiamond RCA/XLR interconnects. Rave reviews from actual buyers all around the world. Simply plug in and listen. No gimmicks, bullets, strings of awful MPC connectors. If it needs those tweeks, it wasn't made correct off the hop( my opinion). The HD are the real deal, Italian made with the patented technology of their own, top grade connectors too. All at a real world price...... |
I agree with everyone in these posting except for Bacardi. Whom posts his same opinion frequently to any Synergistic Research product posting that has S.R. in the subject line. This forum is NOT about S.R. Copper PCs-RCA-XLR-I/C-S/C Etc vs. some inferior No Name PCs-RCA-XLR-I/C-S/C Etc company that does not offer a money back guarantee or a trial demo period on any of its products. What are they trying to hide??? Just my honest opinion!
A very nice member (and friend of mine) of Audiogon sent to me his HiFi-D P3 and P4 PCs to Demo in my system for a month. The NEW Element series from Synergistic Research blows away these PCs. The P3 costs the same as much of the Element Copper and the P4 costs 2 1/2 more than the Element Tungsten and that middle of the line PC puts the P4 to shame. Imagine what the Element CTS line of cables can do. Have you tried them all in your system? I did and made my own conclusions and so should anyone else. But if anyone can not demo a cable or if there is no money back guarantee, I say and stay away from those companies. And this goes for all HiFi- D RCA-XLR-I/C-S/C Etc. Just my honest opinion!
Next, the wall warts are never a problem. And if you don't like them, get a Transporter for all the $$$ you save from buying an Element Tungsten PC vs. the P4 PC. The Transporter has (34) inputs and sounds better than Galileo MPC's. So the retail price for (5) Galileo MPC's that can just power (10) active shields and uses (5) outlets Vs. the Transporter which uses one outlet and costs the same and has better performance has (34) inputs for active shields. If you think about it and crunch the numbers on paper like I did this alone makes any audio system cheaper then getting all P4's for your audio system. Plus I was able to buy the Transporter used from The Cable Company and saved 50%. WOW! a true bargain to me. Anyway, the P3 is much much lower class than the P4 for reference level audio systems. The Element Copper beats the P3 in every spot I put it in, Source, Pre-Amp, Amp, Integrated amp, power strip, subwoofer. Etc. Etc. Again, these are my conclusions and personal experience in my 3 home audio systems. Just my honest opinion!
Please stop posting on the forums where in the subject is asking about S.R. equipment. Just because you are a disgruntled past owner of S.R. products, does not mean you have the RIGHT to convince other people to try and sell another product for another company. It actually makes you look like a sales person for that company. Are you getting some kind of free product or discount? Because actually there is no reason for this type of post on this subject from anyone. It also makes your creditability look bad because if you look at your past posts in your cable discussion section, you mostly talk about that Hi-Fi D company Vs. S.R. You add no useful advise at all. Plus I always wondered why you never post your system/s here on Audiogon? Is your equipment up to par, mid-fi or reference level? So I or anyone else has no idea what you are even comparing these cables in. To me, this also questions your creditability. Just my honest opinion!
Anyway, sorry for the long rant and I am trying to be nice. There is no need to respond with your opinion in this post about something else, its just my opinion. If its not useful information about S.R. products like the subject field asks. Opinions are like a-holes, everyone has one. I don't mean any disrespect if that is how you read this. I'm typing all of this because it seems like you jab at S.R. every chance you get if anyone talks about S.R. Therefore, just please don't post on the S.R. specific subject posts and waste ours and your time unless you have useful info good or bad about S.R. products. Everyone should demo these fine cables and form their own opinions in their very own audio systems. Just like I did. Thank you! ;-) |
David Elrod cables make short shrift of any other cables I have heard, including SR cables. |
I am very pleased with my SR Copper Element interconnects, I have them between my pre amp and amp great musicality! |
@Sabai, how do the David Elrods compare to the HD P3 or P4? |
Hi Bacardi,
I'll PM you on this. |
02-03-14: Thedatman
Well I'm happy with them. I could not find any articles from either of those publications. I’m sure they are there Thanks What's more important, you are happy with them or reviews? Reviews are just opinions from individuals. Big deal! 02-25-14: Sabai
David Elrod cables make short shrift of any other cables I have heard, including SR cables. I've had Elrod Statements and they are good but there much superior cables especially for the $$ to my ears. |
Joecasey,
Have you tried Elrod Statement Gold power cords? |
Have you tried Elrod Statement Gold power cords? No, not Statement Gold. I had a full loom of Statement Is and IIs ... series before Gold. It's a very good cable but not worth the $$ or hassle in using them due to their size and weight. Ribbon cable excels in 3D but lacks weight and impact compare to wire. |
Joecasey,
You may have changed your mind if you had listened to the Statement Gold in your system. I agree, they are very unwieldy. But If you can position them safely in your system the sonic rewards are worth the effort. In my system they do not lack weight and impact in any way. |
You may have changed your mind if you had listened to the Statement Gold in your system. I agree, they are very unwieldy. But If you can position them safely in your system the sonic rewards are worth the effort. In my system they do not lack weight and impact in any way. Glad they work for you ... I have friends that are familiar with Statement Gold and I have no plans to try them. |
