Promised to give feedback on my loud MPC: Turning plug and MPC in all possible constellations did not help, nor did plugging the MPC into a wall receptacle. Only when I moved it to the Tidal system that is fed through the PS Premier did it almost (but not entirely) go away. "Almost" means I have to move my ear next to the MPC. In the Zu system where I have no power conditioner, I managed to suppress the noise to a fainter level (meaning I can hear it when I kneel next to the power bar) by means of a Kemp SNS plug. It is certainly not noticeable when playing music, but I still wonder if I could do something more. A Tesla Power Cell would help, I'm sure, but that looks like (financial) overkill for this second system. |
I'll do that. So the Morrow blew away MIT MA and Transparent Reference huh? So does Tesla at the Accelerator / Acoustic level depending on the system- in fact the Apex level cables were much better then the Transparent Opus MM in my reference system so your new fav flav has some serious competition. |
Shellie, please do try the Morrow MA4's and SP4's. Make sure they are burned in by Mike and/or have 400hrs plus playing time on them. They blew away the MIT Magnum MA and Transparent Reference stuff as well. |
Tbg,
Here here. This thread has been going strong for nearly three years now. I too have tried cables across a wide spectrum and none have been anything like Tesla- and that goes for Daves old love MIT.
I am putting together a system for my brother so perhaps I'll have a shoot out. You never know but I doubt a passive cable can match SR,'s Active shielding. |
Dave b,were it not so much trouble and had I not had so much prior experience with cabling, I might try the Morrow cables, but frankly I have no reason to trust your judgment. I have never before had the dynamics, soundstage realism, and low noise that I have had with the Apex Tesla SR cabling versus cabling many times as expensive.
Your comments about "cult of the month club" have no merit. |
Tried some MIT Magnum MA cabling and the Tesla Accelerator stuff again....the Morrow cabling has gotten even better over time. If your serious about getting the best sound, you must try morrow's for the 60 day trial period. Unless your into the cult of the month club (I was victim), Morrow Audio offers ultimate cabling for Monster cable prices:O) |
Karelfd, Just wondering, make sure your MPC is not inverted. |
Thanks for the advice. The buzz definitely comes from the MPC itself, I'll experiment a bit during the weekend (other receptacle, other source etc.) and report back. |
Karel,
The MPC should not make any noise. Try it in an outlet all its own and see if it goes away while playing music. If not, it needs to be replaced and I would call Synergistic right away for a replacement. |
Karel,
Have you tried plugging it in elsewhere to see if the buzz goes away?
Is the buzz coming from the MPC itself or through the system?
I would think if the MPC itself is buzzing then it probably needs repaired. Mine are dead silent. |
Hi all, this question may have been asked before, but since this is actually the 750th entry it's not easy to trace that back. I have been noticing a constant buzz coming prom the MPC of my T2 power cord. It may have been there for some time but now I'm aware of it it becomes increasingly disturbing (in other words, I have to unplug the MPC when playing music). The MPC is plugged in the same power bar (featuring star-like wire geometry) as the cord itself. Am I creating some sort of loop by that? Any other thoughts? Btw, I use the cord with the Lektor V cd-player/pre-amp.
Thanks for any ideas.
Karel |
Adwiegert,
The PowerCell comes with its own MPC- to power both the PowerCell and its powercord (assuming you get a PowerCell 10SE otherwise the MPC is for the PowerCell only as the PowerCell 6 comes with a stock cheapie powercord). I can't wait to see what a Galileo MPC does over a stock MPC when powering my PowerCell 10SE. This should be fun :) |
does the powercell have it's own MPC? or just the power cord it uses? |
Solda I am going to try the following Galileo MPC placement combinations:
1. Galileo MPC on my PowerCell 10SE /Precision AC, Apex IC, Apex SC.
2. Galileo MPCs on Apex IC and SC and Precision Reference IC.
3. Galileo MPC on PowerCell and all other Tesla PC's in my system. |
Shellie, I havenÂ’t received it yet, hopefully this week or early next week. I would think that by using the Galileo at the Powercell all of the components are getting the benefit. I hope that benefit to be a bigger and even more defined images in the soundstage.
I still like my Quattro for the sole purpose of eliminating the clutter of the Mini Couplers. But, if the Galileo proves to be a big improvement I may install another on my Quattro Power cord. |
Do the Galileo MPC have a greater impact on power cords or interconnects/speaker cables |
Oz,
What benifits did you experience when you placed a Galileo MPC on your PowerCell? Like you I have a full Tesla system.
Thanks. |
If you have a Powercell I would start with that. Use one for the powercell and one for the powercell cord. |
Shellie... I'd try your two best interconnects and your speaker cables first. So if all you have are source to pre and pre to amp then do those.... If you have multiple sources then try either the one you listen to the most... or the one with the better cable (say if one has an Apex or reference and the other has accelerator.... put it on the higher end cable).
That's where I'd start anyways :) |
Guess what UPS just droped off? Three new Galileo MPC's! I am going to let them run in for a few days and report back.
Any ideas where to start? (which cables to power first?) |
I'm glad that its for video systems. I thought that it was something new for the audio side... for which I'm still working on. I'm not as tempted by the video stuff. I am thinking a precision ref power cord might work better on my Rotel 1090 then my SR T3. Thanks kids. |
Ozzy, I agree with you on the Precision AC. I have it on my power amp now and it does everything you mentioned and more. I really noticed the high frequency extension it gives and is very precise with delicate sounds(eg: symbols, shakers, glass,) I thought of getting a Hologram A that I auditioned in the past for the reason that the Hologram A had a larger 3dimensioal soundfield with better imaging...
Regards Paul |
Ozzy, I agree with you on the Precision AC. I have it on my power amp now and it does everything you mentioned and more. I really noticed the high frequency extension it gives and is very precise with delicate sounds(eg: symbols, shakers, glass,) I thought of getting a Hologram A that I auditioned in the past for the reason that the Hologram A had a larger 3dimensional soundfield with better imaging...
Regards Paul |
Solda, it is the Tesla 1080p video connection to your High Defenition tv..check it out on thecableco.com...
Regards Bacardi |
I have been using a T2 power cord on my Pass Labs XP10 Preamp for quite some time now. This power cord has been recommended by SR and by most of the posters on this thread.
But, sprinkled throughout this thread there are some who are using the Precision Ref Power cord on thier Preamp.
Well, I tried one on mine and I have got to tell you there was a pretty big improvement. Improvement in areas of better soundstage, clearer highs and better definition all around.
I have also tried the Hologram A on the preamp and found the upper bass to be too boomy.
So, it is amazing how there is so many "right" cables for different equipment. |
Tried it? Haven't heard of it :(...what is it? Please share Bacardi. |
One question for all... Has anyone tried the Tesla Tricon Active Component cords??????
Regards BACARDI |
I already have acoustic panels in place. Diy OC 7o5 panel at first reflection points (not on ceiling yet) and a few more evenly spaced around the room. The corners have bass traps. I'm not sure if using a ART Basik would be overkill since my room already is acoustically treated.
I'm not sure if I would use a Galileo MPC on a power cord or on interconnects. Suggestions?
Thanks for the responses. |
How did you guys get the Galileo MPC so quickly? I called The Cable Company and they do not even have demo's yet. I e-mailed Ted & Elliot with another request with no response. I assume they are busy with orders after RMAF. I will keep trying.
Solda, try some GIK panels to quiet your room. It works great in my room. I'm trying to get a demo of the Art system to compare.
What's so fun with the Synergistic products are all the combinations you can try. Everyone, keep trying new positions of your Synergistic products and report back. THANKS! |
Solda,
What SR cables would you be putting that Galileo MPC on?
BTW I've got an Acoustic ART Basik on order. It should be here by this weekend. |
My response, Solda, is that I have not heard the Basiks. I think that your cabling might be the first thing to consider as the Galileos need cables to charge and the basic MPCs do a good job with the Tesla cables. |
What do you think has better return on investment (assuming there is already acoustical panels in the listening room) A galileo mpc or the art basik system. |
I see. Yes I think I know what you mean. Since the Galileo and getting half of the basik system installed it's really brought to light some weaknesses in my placement of things.
I was lazy setting the system up and measured speaker placement relative to the front and sidewalls instead of to the listening position. And they aren't really measured to exactness... then the toe in... well that I eyeballed.
I really need to remedy all that.... I also need better speaker cables and power conditioning lol. No cost fixes first I guess. |
Adwiegert, you will get more resolution for sure. I am still getting improvements, such as better isolating my line stage from vibrations, that I was made aware of only with the Galileos. I also noticed that mono recordings had better sound stage when they were slightly less toed in than before Galileos.
Putting one on your PowerCell was a must, as Ted told me. I only have three so you are on your own as to the benefits of doing every SR cable. |
Tbg
dang you!!! *shakes fist* I need to finish replace the rest of (errr... my one other) MPC with a Galileo.
What do you mean by 'rethinking of your system' though? I'd like more in depth details on that thought. |
I have been using Interconnect, speaker cables, power cords as well as the Quattro from Synergistic Research. Does anyone know if there is any problem using cable made for the US market (110v) could be used in Asia where I'm located. Normally, this is not a problem for interconnects and speaker cables but since SR uses active cables with connection to MPC or Quattro I wondering if this is a problem. The used market is quite weak and certainly websites like audiogon gives a lot of options. |
I have several Galileo MPCs. They may require some rethinking of your system. A simple change of cable chargers should not have this much impact.
I have the ART but will not bother with the Basiks. |
Dave_b,
You change cables the way some people change sox. I was once like you- looking for the perfect cable or component that could end my restless audio pursuit. I realized it's all about set up and finding cables and components that work well together (synergy). The SR Tesla cables are the first cables that have worked well enough that I stop (for the most part) thinking about how my system sounds and spend more time looking for great recordings.
I notice that you have an on again, off again love affair with MIT so I'll make you a bet- in six months you'll most likely be back with MIT so you may want to hold on to your uber expensive MIT power cords as you'll only have to purchase them back : )
Adwiegert how is the Galileo MPC coming? How about the Acoustic ART Basik? |
I have a very simple signal path...Sony XA5400ES to 400xi to MG3.6R's. SR tesla accelerator IC and speaker wires left me cold. My love of MIT has waned in favor of Morrow Audio cables. Mike Morrow is in love with home audio reproduction and is extremely passionate regarding his products. He also restrains himself from excessive greed and pseudo scientific principles. |
Any comparisons of old Designers Ref with new Tesla Line?
I used to have a Tesla accelerator IC and thinking of going back to SR cables as I liked the air, naturalness and deep soundstage. However the pricing on the Tesla cables is more than I want to spend again and wonder how the less costly to buy used Designers Reference compares. |
I want to make a suggestion. Now that S.R and alot of us have experienced the two channel music realm, why not make power cords, interconnects, speaker wire to tayler home theater movies. For instance, a center channel information is mostly dialogue which can incorporate a different demand on vocals then the left/right. Left/right can incorporate the musical realm of the Tesla Holograms technology. The surrounds can have enhanced focus on precise, delicate, 3dimensional imaging. Subwoofer low bass can be punctual when needed and also low,low,low when needed.
In my experience I was extremely impressed with the 2 channel sound. I can say being from Canada, in my city of Thunder Bay, Ontario, it is the best sound ever heard that the S.R contributes to. And we have 3-4 sound stores. In suggesting power cords, interconnects, speaker wire & powercell geared for home theater would be an interesting project for S.R and all of us....Home theater is just as big as two-channel....remember..
Regards Bacardi |
Dave_b, yes, if you ignore the obvious cable charging, the clear effectiveness of the ARTs in demonstration, and many people's positive experiences with the PowerCell. Also you obviously ignored the extensive discussion on the website of the three different geometries used in the interconnects, which have proprietary information. |
Dave_b,
So which SR cables did you try? Where? Which model(s)? Specifically between which components? How long did you leave them in before passing judgment? I doubt seriously you removed your MIT entirely or that you followed SR's placement guidelines for individual cable models. If all you did was place a few SR Tesla cables haphazard in an overwhelmingly MIT cabled system you have no idea what SR Tesla cables sound like. As to them sounding overly "smooth" you seem to have changed your mind from when you implied they were bright compared to Morrow cables (which you said you liked and that the SR cables sounded similar). I guess it must be the day : )
Synergistic is all about cable system matching. I went over it with Ted at SR and my dealer who sent me a complete set to audition in my system. He later sent me a different power cord for my CD player and interconnects between CD and pre. When the process was complete I had the most realistic three-dimensional sound I have ever heard. I did not make my selection based on which cable company had the slickest web site (if I had I would NOT have bought SR) or the trendiest materials- though SR has a LOT of info regarding cable geometries and materials on their site.
BTW what's in all those MIT boxes in your system? : ) |
SR the cables, SR the power conditioner, SR the ART system, SR the toilet paper.....Mel Brooks "Spaceballs" Revisited. Just enough techno babble to impress the easily impressed, minus any real engineering insight. I had the Tesla cables home and found them grey sounding and overly smooth. Website offers nothing tangible on the winding geometries, insulation materials, wire quality etc. |
The Basiks at least come with screws holding them to their bases. |
Jaspal,
The kit has 4 satellites and a bass station. The bowls aren't heat treated and coated like the bit ART system, they are just plain bare metal and no magnets like the big ART either. It comes with instructions and both blu-tak and velcro for mounting options.
I have the basik system I just haven't had a chance to install or play with it yet.
Bacardi... see my initial impressions for performance feedback. The $400 is for a single pair of wires.... not sure for the other wire combos? |
I saw them but had no opportunity to hear them versus the big ARTs. The Galileo speaker wires and ics were their main focus. |
I've heard there is a new less expensive ART system (i.e like $600) Does anybody have any more information? Anybody actually been to demo of it? |
I think for $400 each for the Galileo MPC's if someone can relay feedback as to performance and increased quality so we can establish comparisons with the old MPC to the Galileo MPC. Sounds definitly like a good upgrade from the old ones. I am eager to give them a try.... Is the $400 price for a triple/double or single????
REGARDS Bacardi |
Ozzy... see Ted Denney's post from 9-26, a few replies up, it details the Galileo MPC. It is a new mini power coupler, hand built, heavily modified, and quantum tunneled out the wazoo, for use in the Galileo cable system. You can get them separately for use with other tesla cables, retail $400. |
