speakers that are a little laid back in the mids

You’ve had some excellent speakers, and I’ve heard models from all of them and none sounded like the vocals were too upfront or on top of me. If they all don’t sound right to you I suspect there’s something going on with your room/setup. What you’re describing sounds like it could be that your speakers are too close to the back wall and pulling them out further could achieve a more desirable balance and a deeper soundstage. What speakers do you have now, and how far are they from the back/side walls? Also, are you currently using any room treatments?

QLN speakers are super laid back in the mids, as are Sonus Faber, B&W D series (although the highs are forward) and Spendor Classics. 

I am using room treatment. I have some behind the speakers and different treatment along the side walls. I'll try moving the speakers out from the wall. I've always used them in about the same place. Maybe That's my issue. Currently I use Verity Otellos.

thanks

So how far were the fronts of the speakers from the wall?

So how far were the fronts of the speakers from the wall?

@soix , do you subscribe to any rules of thumb on that subject, with untreated walls?

The reason I ask is that when I posted my ’B Stock Revels’ thread, some of the feed back I received included a link from @james633 , which was a link to a guide from Genelec related to positioning monitors, and it was suggesting the faces of the speakers being max 25" off the untreated all; I believe the rationale was due to interactions with the reflections coming off of that wall, but I’d have to look at the article again as this stuff is not second nature to me.

Anyway, I am not asking because I want to argue with your input, I am genuinely interested in your opinion on this matter.

And I have positioned them both ways, but I didn’t want to get into my impressions just yet.