@jjss49
I have no experience in rewiring a speaker and would follow deconny's advice. Both my Tonian Labs TL-D1 and Clearwave Duet 6 speakers were internally wired with Supra and they sounded great.
It's just with speaker cables that I eventually passed on the Supras with.
All the best,
Nonoise |
That Kharma tinned copper wire looks like it's made the same way that Supra wire is. I've tried a couple of Supra's cables and they have that nice, warmish, rounded off sound that's pleasant but not accurate, revealing and life like, to my ears.
Been there, done that, moved on.
All the best,
Nonoise |
AQ Rocket 44 are what I'm seriously looking at, at the moment. Going to Audio Advisor and having them terminate them saves over $200.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Your comparison of OFC vs OCC just got me going again after I decided to let sleeping dogs lie. Why'd you have to go and do that? 😄
All the best,
Nonoise |
@decooney ,
Thanks for getting back with that about OCC, which is what I have in my main, 10GA stranded silver SCs. The more I think about it, the moreI feel I should just keep that one great SC and either leave it alone as is, with the other 16GA solid core (and soft annealed) cable and not care about the looks or cut those pieces off the same brand but 14GA cables and see if that improves what I originally used for jumpers, which were silver plated OFC copper jumpers from DH Labs.
It could very well be that those jumpers were the weak link and the solid silver wire may just do the trick. I'm just on the fence, like I said.
@kgbspy,
Thanks for your input as well but I already passed the point where I know for a certainty, that two cables sound better for one. It's just that those small silver wire jumpers may take me most of the way there as two cables but I won't know until I try.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@stereo5 , Thanks for the feedback. I'm lucky in that my room is much smaller than yours so bass reinforcement keeps me from using a sub. That's a lot of time and pain you went through to get your desired set up. What you say about freeing up the speaker to concentrate on the mids and highs makes tons of sense. If I may recommend something, over at 6moons, Srajan is trying out a studio version of the Dynaudio dual opposing sub and getting great results for the same reasons you state. That studio version is a plain version of the home consumer one and is much cheaper. Here's the link: https://6moons.com/audioreview_articles/dynaudio/All the best, Nonoise |
I just saw a photo on some site where someone just used a solid silver length of wire in place of the jumper plates on the advice of some cable maker and loved the results.
The jumpers I removed were silver plated copper and using pure silver cables on both sets gave me the best sound. Maybe, just maybe, if I butcher one of my sets of Tempo Electric (14 GA or 16 GA) speaker wire and fashion some runs to connect the jumpers, I can get something similar in sound to what I now have using two sets of silver cables with their differing lengths and construction. I could easily live with that as the Cabledyne SC are quite exceptional on their own. It's just that bi wiring seems to be way to go and I haven't exhausted any better possibilities with jumpers. Back to square one.
All the best,
Nonoise |
@stereo5
Your thoughts on the Canare piqued my interest. I noticed that your office setup uses JBL L100 and I have the 4319, which are a close cousin.
I get all the bass I need from them and would like to know if you got the sub after going with the Canare SCs or if you had it all along. That, and the fact that you've kept your ICs and PCs (which weren't cheap) tells me that expense wasn't a consideration.
And, if I may ask, are the highs detailed, airy and as balanced as the rest of the spectrum? As you can see, I'm being somewhat of a glutton of food for thought before I start swapping things out.
All the best,
Nonoise |
Hmm, all these votes for Canare and all of my experience with stranded copper cables were fine, at first, until I happened upon stranded and solid silver cables. Stranded copper has always smeared the sound a bit too much for my liking. It has a very pleasing, but inaccurate, warmth to it that obscures detail and smokes the air, so to speak. Highs are a bit rounded off and the bass gets too fat and inarticulate. I say this only in comparison to what I now use, which reveals lots of info that was AWOL beforehand.
Prices are dirt cheap online what with all the DIYs out there so that gives me a bit of pause as well. I’ve been told by everyone that every cable will sound different and it’s a PITA as there is no consensus. Darn this hobby.
All the best,
Nonoise |
I’m going thru the same thing as the OP. For the longest time I’ve used a great set of 10 GA stranded silver cables connected to the bass inputs per JBLs preference, with some jumpers.
After a while I tried going to the upper set but it sounded worse. Going from one upper to the opposing lower sounded better so it got me thinking of true bi wiring.
The only similar cables I had around are a 14 GA and 16 GA set of Tempo Electric solid silver cables with bare ends. The 16 GA was easily the best. By far, the best sounding system to date. But then, I read Vanderstein’s take on bi wiring and how both cables should be of the same gauge and length, lest other anomalies present themselves.
With my system being on the edge of some brightness but with tons of detail and liveliness that I crave, I noticed how using two cables brought out even more musical details so maybe it’s time for some great quality copper cables.
So now it’s back to the drawing board. The more I investigated, I came across Audioquest and their Rocket series. There are two separate, insulated runs of 4 solid copper wires joined side by side that make it a great choice for an internal biwire and Audio Advisor offers a large discount if you buy the plain version of them if you allow them to terminate and finish the cable instead of buying the finished product. It’s almost 1/3 off. I just might go for a pair of Rocket 44s, but I’m still researching.
All the best,
Nonoise |
