My Raven preamplifier from Spatial Audio Labs arrived today and I thought I would post initial impressions. More folks should be receiving theirs any day now so additional comments from them will be helpful. The packaging was first rate and the box itself looked like it had been hand carried from the next town over. Everything was pristine inside the double box and the finish on the preamp was perfect. The only change in my system today was swapping my Ayre K-1xe preamp for the new Raven. Everything else is the same. The Raven has a cherry base and I upgraded the standard 6SN7 tubes to the Linlai elite version. I let the preamp idle for an hour before listening to female vocals, then instrumental, then male vocals, female, etc... After only a few minutes listening the word that struck me first was REFINEMENT. There was no grain as one might expect with only one hour burn in. Initially, I was pleasantly surprised how similar the Raven was to the Ayre; clearly better but not by a wide margin. However, the gap began to widen over the next several hours. Music was fluid, clear (like a sense of zero distortion), natural, well balanced top to bottom, and became more beautiful and emotionally engaging with every song I played. I am astounded how good this thing is after only 3 hours. I will provide more detail next week after spending more time listening but there is no question in my mind that this is an amazing preamp and I will be keeping mine. I look forward to getting 20+ hours on it and reading the impressions of other new owners.
Spatial Audio Raven Preamp
Spatial is supposed to be shipping the first "wave" from pre orders of this preamplifier in May, does anyone have one on order? Was hoping to hear about it from AXPONA but I guess they were not there. It's on my list for future possibilities. It seems to check all my boxes if I need a preamp.
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@jc4659 Glad it arrived safely and fired right up. Thanks for your initial impressions! It will become more 3D, with more sound stage depth and pinpoint imaging as it runs in for another 50-100 hours. Tone colours will become more vivid as well. I am sure the Ayre is a very nice preamp, but it should sound a little flat and two dimensional compared to the Raven, once it has run in. That eery sense of space will develop on the Raven over the next week or two. We call it the "trippy" sound:)
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@donsachs Soundstage depth, image depth and pinpoint imaging is already better than the Ayre which itself was an improvement over the K-5xeMP in these qualities. |
@jc4659 I know Spatial runs the tubes at least 20 hours before they send things out, just to weed out any failures. A 6SN7 is pretty well run in by 20 hours. Yes, there are subtle changes in them out to 50-100 hours, but most of the sound is there in 20 or so. What you will hear is the cathode bypass caps running in. They are very large film caps and they are idling along at literally about 2% of their voltage rating. So they take a while to settle down. When they do you get that last 10-20%. Where the real magic lives if the rest of your system can present it.
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AB amplifiers have no problem with the crossover region and do not rely on feedback to sort this problem out. Its a matter of the output devices being properly biased rather than anything to do with feedback. Of course, feedback is helpful (if applied properly) to improve the overall linearity of an A or AB amplifier. As Norman Crowhurst indirectly pointed out, most of the time feedback is incorrectly applied. @lynn_olson Since you are using an output transformer, there is an ideal load for which the transformer is optimized. As you know, transformers transform impedance and this goes both ways, so if the load at the output is higher, the load on the output tubes is higher too. But transformers can ring if the load is too high and conversely, roll off if the load is too low. Traditionally, balanced line transformers are designed for low impedance operation (in the old days 600 Ohms, hence the dBm rating). Ampex provided a switch with a 600 Ohm resistor on the back of their tube tape electronics so if the electronics driving something with a high impedance input, the load could be provided to prevent the transformer ringing. So I'm very curious how you handled this issue- did you design the transformer for a low impedance and simply installed a loading resistor? I saw a comment from you about no servos in the context of noise which I assume was a typo since as you know, servos do not introduce noise. You might consider one, since your circuit is direct coupled from input to output before the transformer. Offsets (possibly at the input) can result in an sizable imbalance which introduces distortion, even if you run matched tubes. A servo can be easily used to correct this issue, allowing the output transformer do have its lowest distortion and they are inexpensive to implement. |
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