@atmasphere : Make sense? How the people started to know about change in the stock Technics tonearm for TP and that precisely you was whom made those changes?
Magic?
As I said, you are the only manufacturer that post in this forum and other non-Agon forum everything you make your busineSS when in all those forums is for audiophiles not for sellers as you.
Again, when any one of us took in count that gentlemans that are designers/manufacturers as N.Pass, M.Levinson, J.Carr, D'angostino, Hueber, etc, etc are promoting in those kind of forums their exceptional products? when? show me. You are the only one.
You are not posting as an audiophile, you always post with an specific agenda , till today I never reported thesen kind of facts to the different forum administrators.
Spiral Groove embraces the same design philosophy as Ralph is espousing. "the bearing interface situated in the same horizontal plane as the stylus resting in the record groove"
https://sme.co.uk/audio/product/series-v/ Likewise with SME’s Type V (which does not use unipivots). "Carried in massive yoke on 10mm ball races. Axis at record mean level to minimise warp-wow."
And although cartridge manufacturers would love for universal-headshell tonearms to become more popular (because that would encourage customers to own more cartridges), many high-quality tonearms, including those mentioned above, do not use removable headshells.
While it is clear that the universal headshell is very convenient for changing cartridges, in terms of mechanical rigidity and the quality of the electrical contacts, it leaves something to be desired.
There are valid reasons supporting either option; there is no need for a specific agenda to be present for someone to have a preference either for or against universal headshell tonearms.
I wish All here would show their conviction in their opinions and do take their own advice.
I chased the Technics mod since Axpona 2016 when I was the Only one in the room. In minutes, I heard what the Technics could do. I looked it over, talked to the rep. I Knew that I wanted this TT; no matter the look ___ I heard SPEED control, no doubting it and what it conferred to the MUSIC. I knew from 30yrs chasing the High End grail and 45yrs chasing the grail -(15) as a poor ‘phile.
R, I chased this and researched this for 2 years. Do l want to go through all your tweaks? Multiple tonearm re-wires, multiple headshells, you forgot the “Constant Contact” and all the critical listening. Don’t worry about My money, I will because it is mine.
I did not buy this rig for looks; although I do like it. Fine Industrial.
SQ, Plain and simple. A new High End TT at a Bargain price and a true Value in need of great tonearm. IMO
Waste time and $$$ on tweaks and then buying the the real thing when you realize you could be enjoying?
Well said Norbert. I agree totally. As far as atmosphere having an agenda good for him i feel as long as vendors are up front and honest and truly believes in what he likes it is all good. Ralph has never tried to sell me anything he just offered his honest opinions which I listened to because he has expierennce with what I am interested in.
Dear @jcarr : """
preference either for or against universal headshell tonearms. """
unfortunatelly my dialogue with atmasphere was and is from a way different subject.
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although cartridge manufacturers would love for universal-headshell tonearms to become more popular (because that would encourage customers to own more cartridges), many high-quality tonearms, including those mentioned above, do not use removable headshells. """
Problem is that till today does not exist the " perfect " tonearm design, always we have to deal with trade-offs looking for the " best " trade-offs.
Dear @nkonor: I know that you did not buy it because you like it, I was refering to the OP post.
Yes, it's your money and your privilege.
When I give any advise I always analize all what's surrounded in that audio system or audio item and then share what I will do if I was in the same situation/scenario and that's why I said that makes no sense to change a very good tonearm with out been analized the different up-date alternatives as the ones I mentioned that with out doubt makes the stock Technics tonearm to " swim " in the same pool as the best top today TP and maybe way better than the TP just maybe.
The stock Technics tonearm is marketed to a price point where the 1877 up-dates can't goes because that price point.
The 1877 up-date is a wire that the TP today owners only can " dream " because the one inside the TP is an inferior one and that's what you have.
But, as I said it's your money and spend it as you want it.
Dear @invictus005: """
Just because the tonearm cable is copper, it doesn't mean that the silver tonearm wire portion will not have a positive impact. From my experience, it has a very big impact.
I use silver plated van den Hul ......................................................
I don't use silver anywhere else in the system as it becomes overwhelmingly too much....................."""
you are spot on about silver wires/cables and only ignorant persons think in different way.
Where I disagree with you is that all wired system with silver is " overwhelmingly too much ". If that happens in any audio system then there are some " faults " in one or some of the audio system chain links but the silver wires. When you have a better signal conductor over your system all the " trash " comes out.
In my system I use only silver wires/cables ( I re-wire the inside wires in my speakers too. )including in the power cables. Outstanding resolution ! ! !
jtsnead- I am using the ortofon LH4000 with the Delos. I am using the headshell wires that came with the LH6000 and also a Orsonic 200 gram record Clamp With the Glider, I am using a Jelco HS-25 and with the Grace the Stock headshell
JTSnead- the best cartridge for synergy with this table was the Ortofon Bronze. The Delos is great as well, needs many hours of run in. The Bronze was very good. The Delos just tracks so amazingly that it is hard to take off of the table. Patience is a virtue with it as it takes a long time to run in. At least my copy did. It does not hurt from time to time to use the demagnetizer.
Dear Raul, I am waiting for you to back up your claim that placing the tonearm bearing in the plane of the LP is a good idea only for gimbal type tonearms, not for unipivots. Please do explain why a unipivot would not benefit from such a design element. Moreover, these days there are almost no pure unipivots left on the market. Nearly all unipivot-like tonearms are now employing secondary bearings to stabilize the unipivot. How would you treat this third category? Thanks.
I just had an experience with the 1200G which, IMHO, has to do with the internal tonearm wires. I have had my table for about 4 months and after considerable listening, the sound just opened up immensely. It was very good before this happened. Now it sounds simply incredible. I bet its the wires in the tonearm. They must take a long time to run in. very deep and accurate bass and the sound just relaxed a bit. This with a Lyra Delos.
@johnnyb53 Where did you hear that the arm is "aluminum with a magnesium coated finish"? Everything I have seen says it is magnesium, including the Technics website.
I did the mod not hard at all. Bought the board off of ebay and drilled it myself. I like the Funk Firm mats that is what I am using. Weights, clamps do not make much of a difference but I really have not tried to compare with and without, The VPI weight I just put on for the pictures
Yes it shuts. @atmashere did you position the arm on Norberts table just so the wire would miss the hinge? I was wondering about why the arm is shifted to the left so much?
Dear @jtsnead : If the tonearm shifted to the left it's because the the tonearm cable is out of position.
With out the antiskating mechanism and zero VTF ( leveled horizontal. ) a tonearm must stays steady where you left its position, if not then there exist a problem.
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