Shindo pre + buget amp or Leben amp + budget pre


Relatively new to Audiogon and was looking for some advice. I'm putting together a new system, and I've decided on the WTL Amadeus with Denon 103 cart for my source, and Devore Super 8s for speakers.

I can't decide whether to get the Shindo Augieres pre and run it into a budget amp (possibly used), or get a Leben cs300xs and use a budget phono stage (again, used). Eventually I would upgrade the budget component, additional funds permitting ...

Thoughts? Thanks in advance ...
pdicorpo
That is a very nice system you are putting together!

I have a Shindo Aurieges-L in one of my systems and a Leben RS28-CX in another. Both are excellent but I have changed my thinking and now slightly prefer the Shindo to the Leben. I would recommend the Aurieges and the best phono stage you can afford to get the most out of your Amadeus. I believe most other Shindo owners would recommend that you eventually get an appropriate Shindo amp as well to reap the musical benefits of an all Shindo system. I know I am in the minority but neither of my Shindo preamps are paired with a Shindo amp. My Aurieges is a great match to my Bedini 25/25 driving a pair of Omega Super 8 Alnico XRS, and a friend of mine has in the past very much enjoyed using first an Aurieges and more recently a Monbrison paired with a Levinson 334 to drive his Gibbon 9s. So there are two of what I suspect are many examples of Shindo preamps working well with non-Shindo amps.

What ICs and speaker cable are you using? Many Shindo owners like Auditorium 23 to fill those needs.
Given your two stated choices(both good) I`d go with the Shindo. There`s more ultimate potential to build from IMO.
Thanks for the feedback. I might have to go budget with the ICs and speaker cable and upgrade later ... I was thinking Anti cables.
Knowing only the TT and cart combination first-hand, I would still say spend on the preamp and phono stage now, upgrade downstream later.

Have to agree with 4musica44107, that is a seriously nice system you are building, one I'd love to hear. IMHO you'll have the best time now with the bucks concentrated at the source. It's just more fun to listen that way than the other way round, and that TT can deliver as much fun as you let it.
By the way, the MM phono stage on the Shindo preamps is also quite good. The problem with the Aurieges is that it has a higher output impedance than the other Shindos, making it a more difficult pre to match amps with (especially Solid State).
The Leben integrated is also a very nice match with the Devores, a combo I heard at the Montreal show a couple years ago...
As far as your choice goes, I think it comes down to whether you think you will have more budget in the future or whether you'd just like to sit back and enjoy. The Leben will offer you the no fuss, no muss solution. The Shindo will offer a future path (although the devores will definitely reveal any weaknesses)
I suppose I'd go Leben based on what you've said...
byron
If you get a Shindo Aurieges, make sure your amplifier is at least 50K input impedance, best if 100K input impedance or more. This will likely influence your choice of budget amplifiers.
Impedance info incorrect. Speak to your dealer for correct information or questions on matching specific amps.

Jonathan
Go for the sure auregies l and a raw son built f3. I recently used that pairing and it was quite good with my zu soul superflys. It should really make your devores sing for now. It does not sound "budget" by any means.

As for your analog, I'd really suggest a jasmine audio lp2.0 mk ii. Kicks some serious tail with my well tempered reference and zu 103 and is quite affordable. The bobs device cinemags are a nice addition to the pairing as well.