you got a great deal...tuner prices are quite variable these days, so nothing to lose by asking high price but accepting offers...having a Don Scott modified MR-74 I've mostly lost track of the tuner market, and am sometimes shocked at both the high and low prices the classics sell for...
sellers trying to sell used product for 10-20% off of list price
I don’t get it. Almost any item here can be bought brand new from a dealer with a full warranty for 20% off - virtually any and all high end product. Some can be bought for close to 30% percent off. Sellers trying to sell year old product for 20% off are delusional, perhaps hoping for someone to naively buy it at their price but I doubt it happens. If the product isn’t in the range of 40-50% off of MSRP I'm not sure why anyone would buy it as often the warranty doesn’t transfer. Factor in sellers asking for 5-6% extra for Paypal plus shipping charges and even a 30% percent discount really is more like 15% off of list- a non starter. Am I the only one doing this math ? I can buy brand new at 25-30% with no extra charge for using paypal or my credit card and minimal shipping. Asking for a friend lol.
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As the recent owner of a MR-85 I can tell ya $2 k offers would have made me dance in aisles... but to each his own.... I did trade it for a minty pair of Theil 2.3 in cherry.... sometimes a trade is best Richard Modaferi modified my Mx-110 at Audio classics and it certainly equals the MR-85 to the OP what was the chain ? |
A customer owes a retailer nothing, other than to pay the agreed upon price. You are not obliged to sell it to them at a reduced price. Your post is sour grapes. You think you have it bad in retail? Try business to business. The OP represents virtually every customer. MFRs and Retailers set prices not on what a product is worth, but on what they think they can charge for it. Given that situation, how can you fault a customer that negotiates for a lower price. He has no obligation to take food off his table and put it on yours. ed Oct 12, 2019roxy542,927 posts10-12-2019 6:29pmExcuse me for saying so OP, but I am in retail and I can smell your type from a mile away. You are the type of difficult customer that no retailer wants, but sells to anyway for a couple of reasons. 1) They're having a bad week and it's a big ticket item, or it's been in the store too long anyway. 2) To shut you up an get rid of you, because there aren't too many like you, just a few percentage wise and you serve a purpose once in a while, however unpleasant. You're the type that wants to get the lowest price, fair or unfair, seller be damned. But of course you always will find a seller. The rest of us see it a little differently. |
You know this really isn’t a big problem. I think that it is not needed for the OP to whin about this in a forum, especially since he has a retail history. If a seller has mispriced their item they will find out when it doesn’t sell. No need to complain about it. But here is an idea: make an offer! Negotiate. If you think the price is too high and you have checked the usual sites to see what the market value really is, than ask the seller why they are asking what they are asking. They might just tell you. You lose nothing by doing so. This reminds me of a couple of quotes: “if you don’t ask, you don’t get” and the one from Wayne Gretzky: “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take.” |
I would split this between Dealers who are offering products that are Demos or lines they actively carry vs. hobbyists. Some manufacturers have rules in how you list used goods. Some prohibit it altogether. You follow the rules or lose the line. In the end, a listing is just based on what the market will pay. I just listed a used Hegel H390 (I am not a hegel dealer) for 20% off. It sold in 2 hours at a small discount from that. I look at recent sales in the Bluebook, other listings (TY HiFi Shark) and prices are driven by those recent sales. You can complain about the prices but if stuff is selling... |
Over the few years I've been an Audiogon user, I've been surprised that people list prices for their used equipment so high; most of the time I see those listings just languish, sometimes not. What's anything worth? Just what someone is willing to pay for it! The way the real estate market these days where we live, it's difficult for me to say what something is actually "worth". |
