I use the Nucleus + and run it with my McIntosh integrated amp, with DAC, and a Tidal subscription as the source. It sits on a shelf underneath my amp and makes absolutely zero noise (I mention that as I wasn’t clear on the comments upthread about placement and noise..?). Yes, I could run Roon off a laptop, but I love the clean look and pairing it with my iPad using the Roon app. Very simple setup - integrated amp, Nucleus +, and speakers. My music never sounded better.