Rogue vs ARC

I have been incredibly impressed with the quality of Rogue Audio. Donc55 is being quite unfair in his basic subjective opinion, and for him to make a statement "Rougue is cheaply built !" (Donc55's mispelling of Rogue, not mine) is totally misguided. My Rogue amp is built extremely well, and has been quite successful at making beautiful sounding music...... Furthermore, Mark and Nick at Rogue Audio have always been there for me, and are personally involved in telephone conversations, guidance, and support of their terrific products. Both Rogue Audio and ARC make high quality audio gear !

So, Donc55, my advice to you is simple.....please refrain from bashing any audio company, and rather, please post insightful information on these forums which may help us in our attempts to further learn about our quest for musical excellence and expand our appreciation of this wonderful hobby. If the audio industry is to flourish and survive, we all need to be supportive of the hard working companies who are striving to make great products for us to enjoy. Whether it's Rogue Audio, ARC, Rega, Conrad-Johnson, Quicksilver, Vandersteen, or whatever, let's be positive in our thinking and be open to the fact that there's a lot of great equipment out there. Let's all be cool, and enjoy the music. HAPPY LISTENING !!

Any legitimacy to the statement that the Rogue is made cheaply? Not a question of sound here, but parts, fit, trim etc. Even if so does not mean they do not sound as good as ARC, but is it really a lower level of construction (something worth paying extra for, for some folks.)

I don't think this is a fair comparison. The Rogues are monoblocks and the output power rating wpc is significantly higher than the ARC. Both of these companies offer fine products. Audiofeil has already provided the best answer.

It is good to have plenty of checks and balances here and I appreciate Audiofeil pointing things out or making people aware of certain things. Everything needs to be put forth in the right context. I think using clarifying statements like "in my system" or "my room" is an easy way of keeping things in context. So that leaves an out that maybe in your room or your system you will get a different sound with the same component rather than making absolute statements about on product being outright better than the other.

Sorry if you mistook my post as a personal attack.

However when a poster with obvious lack of experience trashes a company that makes high quality components it's important to understand the basis of his/her comments. That was the reason for my request. Any component can sound poor in the wrong system.

Many readers rely on these threads for accurate information and it's unfortunate that folks making accusations such as this can harm or damage a fine company's reputation based on limited experience or conjecture.

I have many hours of listening time with both ARC and Rogue; each of them offer good value and high reliability.

No financial interest with either company

Well at least there's no gun play.

I value the Audiogon forum venue and most comments made by posters. But when some resort to personal attacks, it becomes tiresome for me and I suspect many others.

I respectfully suggest that posters refrain from such attacks in this forum. And for those times when the child ego state is dominant (and it happens to all of us), then simply continue the dialogue outside of this forum.

Again, this is only a suggestion, respectfully offered.

First of all I don't need to read any reviews. And you should do the same and start listening.

Once again, please list all of the information requested and stop generalizing.

Otherwise it's just an opinion based on conjecture and/or inexperience.

My bet is on inexperience.

Thank you

And that's an understatement.

>>04-07-10: Don_c55
The ARC is much superior to Rogue!
Rogue sounds SS<<

Interesting.

As a point of reference for us, please list all of the speakers along with the different ARC and Rogue amplifiers you've auditioned, to make this conclusion.

Also include the source components and linestage(s).

Thanks in advance.

The ARC is much superior to Rogue!

Rogue sounds SS!

Sign,
NO one has compared the two?