Replacement for Lyra Titan i

@rauliruegas 

Raul, I agree with you sort of, but not completely.

I have had many cartridges rebuilt by both the original mfr. and by third party retippers 

Having the original mfr do the work preserves the value, and you get some additional assurance that it will be the same as original.

The OP has a no longer in production Lyra cartridge. If rebuilt by Lyra, it will still be worth far less than the original retail, and there is a value judgment to be made by the OP about whether he wants to pay a few thousand dollars for a rebuild.

The OP may  want to, as you suggested, exchange it for a current model with Lyra giving a discount in exchange for his cartridge.

He needs to weigh all of the outcomes along with his pocketbook to make the best decision for himself. In my original post I suggested Lyra or a third party retipper. 

In very few cases does the original mfr have some sort of secret sauce that allows them to refurbish the cartridge in a way that no other can replicate. My EMT JSD75s is an example that a third party could not properly replicate the result achieved by EMT. I had it rebuilt by EMT.

On the other hand my older out of production Shelter 901 I had rebuilt by a third party retipper and the results were great with the cartridge sounding as good as it ever did.

The OP bought a cartridge that sold for $6,000 new retail so I thought he could make his own value judgments about what to do with his cartridge.

Raul, you also have a great deal of experience and so can easily make the best decision for you. It seems appropriate that the OP be given the information he needs to make his decision and with all of this being said by you and I he probably has more than enough information.

Best Regards,

Jim Perry

Dear @jperry : In the case of top LOMC cartridges there are reasons why the best way to fix the damaged cartridge ( retip or whatever. ) is to do it directly to the original designer/manufacturer and not through any after market re-tipper. J.Carr explained ( Lyra. ) time ago about and with other words here are some of those reasons:

first the cartridge fixed will arrives to the owner with the latest overall up-dates, up dates that does not makes for a MK2 version but that are true quality performance improvement levels over the original design. These can't do it for any re-tipper because they can't know those undisclosed up dates.
Other true advantage is that the cartridge owner receives is a in new status condition and was voiced by the manufacturer to shows it at its best. The retipper can't do it. Other is that on top cartridges the parts selection stylus tip /cantilever not only are premium quality but normally are hand selected according the designer and cartridgemodel  needs.

Yes, retippers are a lower price but with many disadvantages and with no single true reason that the fixed cartridge can performs really better than the manufacturer work.

R.

Dear @veerapaneni : Of course that Lyra can refurbish that Titan i for you.

You can too ask if they can take your Titan in a change for the Etna or other of its newer cartridge designs that includes the Kleos too.

You can email directly to the Lyra designe/0wner here:

https://www.audiogon.com/users/jcarr

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.

I hate spell correction 

cool should be coil as in moving coil

in Lyra the coils are aligned only when recommendation for tracking force applied

Addendum the Delos is NOT in system with my 7

OP

i have the lowly Delos but in the system with my 7’s
might I suggest a call on Tuesday to Bruce at Stereo Unlimited in San Diego
he is Lyra and Vandersteen dealer and I believe will steer you well
Brice personal LPcollection is 10 K deep he is truly an analog junkie :-)
best to you

my opinion on rebuild by non own is Never on a Lyra

as you know cool Center is aligned for suspension preloaded at recommendation for tracking force NOT at the relaxed unloaded position

just my $.02

jim

Just saw a new thread over in MISC titled "Good Ole Boys Club"
Talk about timing

Gotta get back to my learning experience now.

If you haven’t heard it you don’t have a valid opinion. Like repeating gossip

@jperry

I would hope one would warn the OP about the possibility of a cartridge degrade when recommending a 3rd party rebuild...............

instead of an inexperienced poster having to do so.

Do Lyra still rebuild Titan I which is a discontinued model ? I have sent them an email and waiting for a reply. 

Andy at the Needle Clinic can use the same kind of cantilever and diamond as what’s in the original. Turn around time is a week or even less. Very reasonable. 

Right, some say it is an improvement. some say a downgrade, some can't tell the difference. Love to hear your thoughts when you have some experience.

I never tried a rebuild by a 3rd party, but read a lot here who say it's just not the same (sound) as the original manufacturer does. 

Get your Lyra Titan rebuilt by Lyra or a third party rebuild shop like Expert Stylus, Soundsmith or Phono Cartridge Retipping.