Take a look at Well Tempered Labs tonearm and read about their version of a bearing...
Rega tonearms using plastic bearings
Just came across this on Igus website as I use some igus bearings in linear applications at work.....
https://press.igus.com
I have a Rega P-5 with RB700 that I rarely use as I prefer my Thorens 125 mk II & 160 considerably more.
I just thought this was interesting info on new bearings. If this is old news I apologize as it’s new to me.
thanks,
Johnny
https://press.igus.com
I have a Rega P-5 with RB700 that I rarely use as I prefer my Thorens 125 mk II & 160 considerably more.
I just thought this was interesting info on new bearings. If this is old news I apologize as it’s new to me.
thanks,
Johnny
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Mijostyn I am trying to figure out how crank shaft bearings , mains or rod, have anything to do with plastic tone arm bearings. Automotive crank bearings are designed to take a pounding and high rpm. They are made of various metals and are running in a oil bath to maintain a certain tolerance and lubrication. A tone arm never does even 1 rpm or takes any pounding. There is no real weight so you have gone from one extreme to another. This whole tolerance thing is easy to measure and talk about but in the reality of a tone arm how realvent is it. Now in vibration control we may have a whole different ball game. But there is not a consensus on what should be done here, even by experts. The only issue I would be concerned with would be long term wear in the small area of movement. Ok maybe long term stability of plastic just exposed to a indoor environment. The sad reality is there is no one size fits all in audio. This plastic bearing could work great in various tonearm or not. So we are back to build it try various bearings and listen. Then you at least know in that arm and system YOU like one over another. Or maybe no difference at all. Enjoy the ride Tom |
There are some seriously tough plastics out there that are self lubricating and make excellent bearings. People may not realize this but simple, plain bearings like you find in an automotive crank shafts are far more durable than ball bearings. You would not use plastic in an engine due to the heat but in a tonearm no problem. |
Plastic? Sounds ludicrous but here's an interesting article from 2017 that confirms it: https://www.eurekamagazine.co.uk/design-engineering-features/technology/in-pursuit-of-perfect-balanc... |
Two companies using Si3N4 (Silicon Nitride) ball bearings in their arms are Audiomods and Helius Designs, both UK firms. Helius designer/maker Geoffrey Owen is familiar with Si3NR balls bearings, as they are used in the telescopes installed in the Space Shuttle, a project he was involved in (his other job is that of a rocker scientist ;-). |
Dear @dronepunk : It depends the quality and kind of plastic you can use either for TT bearing or for tonearm pivot bearings. In both cases it needs extreme tigth tolerances and accuracy levels. Not many years ago ceramic was used for tonearm bearings even its fragility and maybe higher resonances than plastic. So we can't know for sure if plastic can help down there. Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS, R. |