Recommendations for a jazz record which demonstrates vinyl superiority over digital


I have not bought a vinyl record since CDs came out, but have been exposed to numerous claims that vinyl is better.  I suspect jazz may be best placed to deliver on these claims, so I am looking for your recommendations.

I must confess that I do not like trad jazz much.  Also I was about to fork out A$145 for Miles Davis "Kind of Blue" but bought the CD for A$12 to see what the music was like.  I have kept the change!

I love the jazz in the movie Babylon, which features local Oz girl Margo Robbie (the film, not the jazz).

So what should I buy?

128x128richardbrand

No, I think you have a point, and that's why I get aggravated by some who say they don't like jazz but who then cite music or musicians that I don't think of as jazz-y in any sense, as examples.  I must admit my own idea of jazz is fairly parochial. I listen to live performances locally by musicians that adhere to the rules of bebop or "modern jazz", meaning post WW2 jazz and therefore including KOB, for example, which is not really bebop.  I own probably ~3000 Jazz LPs encoding performances by musicians that are mostly deceased, therefore. Spiro Gyra is not jazz to me, although I would not deny the possible musical merit.

By the way, it took me a long time to see the irony in this thread: If you don't care for jazz, then why ask about a jazz LP that proves any point about digital vs analog?

@lewm

By the way, it took me a long time to see the irony in this thread: If you don't care for jazz, then why ask about a jazz LP that proves any point about digital vs analog?

Indeed!

I obviously know very little about jazz, but I like some tracks and some musicians.  There are a lot pieces and depth of jazz that are only appreciated by musicians or hard core listeners - which I think confuses some of simpletons and make us say: we don't like jazz. It's a process....

agree with @lewm about what is considered jazz, and what is ’something else’ but maybe completely enjoyable.

regarding jazz recordings that clearly demonstrate the superiority of vinyl, here is an easy one. low hanging fruit.

---my darTZeel 468 mono blocks have a ’peak watt’ output (the value holds for 8 seconds after) read out on the front face. it’s very easy to see with your eyes how all analog vinyl has higher peaks than digital with the same recording played back at the same SPL level. because digital smears peaks. so it’s easy to find jazz recordings with significant drum whacks or heavy horn crescendo’s and just ’look’. no place to hide. one particular recording i play for visitors is the AP 45rpm pressing of ’Georgia On My Mind’ from "Ben Webster Live at the Renaissance". about 2 minutes in there is a drum whack that hits 150+ peak watts (my speakers are 97db, 7 ohms so a 150 watt peak is significant). the digital file peak is around 70-80 watts peak. if you never heard the vinyl the digital is impressive. but it’s not close to where the vinyl can go.

now multiply that to every micro-dynamic millisecond of the recording and the reason why an analog recording has more energy is easy to understand. and it translates into textural and musical flow differences too.....although we cannot always ’show’ the unbelievers every difference. they need to be heard.

this ’visual’ convinces the most jaded analog skeptics. and i can go all night with more A/B examples. my current digital does not suck either, and i have done this compare over many years with different tt's and digital sources and the result is always the same.

... my partner, who is far more into popular genres than I am, says it was not a jazz band, just the brass section of his backing band.  Pop she says!

By the way, the sound was literally painful, especially in the chest.  I suppose it had to be - the venue was a packed cricket ground, afaik

@miklavigne

Cartridges / phono-stages should honour the RIAA equalisation curve.  Most cartridges have a distinct lift in the treble, which also means the leading edges of transients are accentuated.  Of course, when mastering a record from a digital file, the recording engineer can modify whatever parameters he chooses.  In general we like louder!