Quicksilver V4 amps with KT150


Hi

I recently pick up a 5 year old pair of Quicksilver V4 amps.

I contacted Quicksilver and Mike confirmed that it can use KT150 tubes even though it does not have the latest transformer. He felt the KT150 would be a “significant improvement” over the KT88’s.

While I respect Mike’s opinion I am looking for feedback from anyone using the KT150 in their V4’s before I spend $800.00 or so on new tubes.

Thanks
jb45
I thought the JJ KT 88's sounded great in my V4's, both the RCA and balanced versions I owned. I bet EL34's would sound great in them too. My guess is each tube type may compliment a certain genre of music, so perhaps what you listen to most may better help make your decision. Great amps, enjoy the quickies.
I am currently using Gold Lion KT-77 tubes in my Quicksilver V-4 amps. Plenty of power for my Proac speakers. Fast and sweet sounding. I have not tried the KT-150 tubes.

Congrats on buying a great sounding pair of amps.

Just curious - what was the recommended bias setting for the KT-150 tubes?
That's a lot of money to take a chance on. I would call Cable Co and see if they have some KT150 that they can lend you. For some reason, I thought the V-4's took 6550's. Personally, I like them better than the KT-88. If they'll work in your amp, I would definitely consider them as well.
I recently heard the latest V4s with Kt150 tubes in an unfamiliar system set-up by a local dealer and it was just amazing to everyone present. I think that is a first for our audio group.:) While I've always admired Quicksilver and felt they were excellent at the price point and beyond, what I heard was WELL beyond my previous experience with the Quicksilver lineup and what I was expecting to hear. This aside from listening to an unfamiliar system. Power, tonality, harmonic resolution, simply put a very natural and believable presentation on all types of primarily acoustic music including small ensemble jazz, choral, piano, solo voice and orchestral.

You made a great purchase and if you REALLY want to hear what that amp is capable of I would say go for it, I don't think you'll be disappointed providing there aren't significant changes to the transformer from your V4's to the latest, only Mike Sanders can fill you in on that. I am planning on auditioning the latest Silver 88s with the 150s to see if some of that magic carries over in my system.
Thanks for the feedback.

The amps sounds so good they way they are but with all the hype around the kt150 and the recommendation from Mike it has me thinking...

Mike said they should be biased at 45ma
Jb, please keep us updated if you go with the KT150s. I would be most interested in hearing your impressions.
Tubegroover

I will post my impressions in a few weeks. I just ordered a set.

Just curious what system did you hear the V4's in?
The system consisted of Aesthetix Romulus CD front end, Quicksilver full function pre, Gershman Grande Avande Garde speakers and Omega Micro cabling throughout.
jb45,

Old thread but; did you try the kt150 in the V4's and how did it sound?

I have a 2009 pair and run the kt120 even though they were not designed for that tube. Sounds great. I understand that the only extra benefit that you will not get with the updated transformers is the power output at 170w.
Hi,

Sorry I never followed up my post.

Unfortunately I never got to try them. 

Long story but I had issues with my tube order and the amps sound so good with the KT88's I gave up on trying KT150.
Mike's a great guy.... I needed some help when i re-tubed my mid monos.  His support of his products is among the best of any company,  large or small in my 35 years in this hobby.  

For what its worth I put Gold Lion kt88s in my amps and they are the best sounding variety I've ever used.   They were great amps with EL34s but in a whole different league with those fat bottles. 

It turned out that a driver tube blew when i powered it up to bias.  Turned out to be a coincidence but I didn't want to power it back up without talking to him first.

Anyway,  I love those amps...... I'll be ordering his 120 monos after my daughter graduates next year.    

My pair or V4, purchased new in 2011, are now discontinued which is too bad for tube lovers.  These monos really showed me how music can sound like music, not just sterile dynamics with no soul.  They also do not sound slow, thick or mushy like many tube amps can either.  Few brands out there still relatively somewhat considered affordable can marry these positive differences and give you the best of both world. The addition of the kt150 with the newest transformer just elevates things to a different level.  As a hint to my outcome, it went from Muhammad Ali “floating like a butterfly” that was ready to deliver a knockout blow at any moment of time…to a body puncher constantly “slamming me into my gut”, Joe Frazier.  Good or bad, one must give a listen and judge for themselves and system dependent rather than an all out 100% across the board good for everyone.


So I was  fortunate enough to listen to the newest version with kt150s and was initially blown away with the bass drive.  But, as I listened more and more to different music tracks, I got the thought I was losing a top to bottom cohesiveness that I remember from my home system.  
So, ready to purchase and trade up to a new pair, the dealer gave me ample time to go back home and while still fresh off the dealership audition, do a memory based comparison.  Fair or unfair as we all kinda know dealerships do not usually have perfectly set up demo rooms but this one as pretty nice.  Room deadening and quality components were used.  We chose similar but not identical ancillary components that I thought would be close enough.  My pieces that have the biggest impact at home are my tube Shindo preamp and my Kef Ref1 Meta on dedicated Ref 1 stands.  
Results, well simply put, if I was in my middle 20’s the kt150’s would have won hands down.  But in my late 50’s a more even distribution flatter response was way more enjoyable over many genre types of music.  My KEFs will do 30Hz to 45KHz in room when needed.  Thus my preference is the KT88’s as a dancer not a bruiser for my V4s. 

 

*On a side note, these amps have been bulletproof.  Bias setting as Mike Sanders recommends, and they will not eat tubes like others do.  I’ve had my caps checked and they look just fine, likely another 5 years so says Sanders(20 yrs seems the life span).  Thus for those of you that have a pair, now discontinued like I said, if you are happy don’t even think about it.