The Question is at what time was the industry in the know Stereo was not too far into the future, as this might of been a brakes on influence.
@pindac Stereo reel to reel was available as early as 1954 using 'staggered head' format.
Phono Stage - The great analog tragedy
In the world of analog playback, there is an interesting observation. There has been tremendous innovation in the field of
Turntable - Direct, Idler, Belt
Cartridge - MM, MC, MI
Tonearm - Gimbal, Unipivot, Linear Tracking
For all of the above designs we find some of the best reference components designed in the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s. Most of the modern products are inspired from these extraordinary products of the past. But when it comes to phono stage, there is hardly any "reference component" from that era. They just standardized RIAA curve for sanity and left it. Manufacturers made large preamps and amps and allocated a puny 5% space for a small phono circuit even in their reference models, like a necessary evil. They didn’t bother about making it better.
The result? It came down to the modern designers post 2000 after vinyl resurgence to come up with serious phono stages for high end systems. Unfortunately they don’t have any past reference grade designs to copy or get inspired from. Effectively, just like DACs, reference phono stages is also an evolving concept, and we don’t have too many choices when we want a really good one which is high-res and natural sounding. Very few in the world have figured out a proper high end design so far. And most of the decent ones have been designed in the past couple of decades. The best of the breed are probably yet to come.
It is a tragedy that our legendary audio engineers from the golden era didn’t focus on the most sensitive and impactful component, "the phono stage"
The Question is at what time was the industry in the know Stereo was not too far into the future, as this might of been a brakes on influence. @pindac Stereo reel to reel was available as early as 1954 using 'staggered head' format. |
Good topic for discussion, thanks. I do not particularly believe that the lack of good phono stages capable of supporting low output moving coil cartridges in the "golden era" e.g. pre 1980 was a tragedy. The better amplifiers and preamplifiers of the day did an excellent job at cleanly amplifying the signal of the better Moving Magnet cartridges of that era, Aside from the Denons and Ortofon SPU (which each historically used SUTS for the first amplification stage), LOMCs did not start becoming popular until after 1980 or so. In which case it was an analog tragedy that neither existed in the golden age. However the industry has since responded quite well as there are a number of very high quality internal and external phono preamps that can support the best of the best LOMCs. I would argue the golden age of vinyl playback is NOW. |
I'm whish share my journey with external phono stages and the significant improvements I've experienced. My first external phono stage was a Croft Micro tube preamplifier with a passive RC RIAA circuit and a cathode follower preamplifier output stage, which I acquired in 2002. Later, I purchased a used EAR 834p. Despite their different RIAA designs (active and passive), both the Croft and EAR offered similar sound quality, though I slightly preferred the EAR. My next project was inspired by Romy The Cat's "End of Life" (EOL) phonostage, which is based on the EAR 834p schematics. The EOL design features a superior power supply (with a parallel stabilizer and LCLC filter) and air RIAA capacitors, which are improvements over the original 834p. I built this into a single box unit, and it was a significant upgrade from the original 834p. Over the years, I continued to refine it with further upgrades, including a larger and better power supply, as well as improved cathode and output capacitors. More recently, I rebuilt the EOL into a two-box system, and the resulting difference in sound quality has exceeded my expectations. This experience has reinforced that while the RIAA schematic is crucial, the implementation truly makes a huge difference. My current EAR 834p version sounds vastly different from the original. |
While what you wrote, and what I am about to write, has absolutely nothing to do with the "topic", such as it is a topic, I will add that I too have found that upgrading the capacitors used in the RC type RIAA network makes a tremendous difference, BUT one must be certain to use exactly the same values of C as was used by the designer, else the RIAA will be inaccurate. (Even high quality capacitors are only specified to be within a few percent of the marked value; you have to measure each one individually to reproduce the curve.) This really means you need an accurate capacitance meter first to read the values used in the original, and then you need the meter to select from among the replacement capacitors, to find exact values. It's very worthwhile if you have the patience. And of course, PS upgrades almost always help if done right. (I kind of wonder how you got away with air capacitors since I understand that they can be unstable in value due to humidity, etc.) |