Perfect Path "Solutions" (PPS) eMat

Just use some refrigerator magnets. 

Glupson...
So far, the only one that contributed with an answer applying directly to my question was MC...The others including you have contributed zero beyond being negative (sceptics) towards the product(s) in question and to other posters. If one wants to post their negativity, by all means create your own thread instead of skewing this one (mine) off course.

You know how MC makes comments on masks and covid @cleeds , even though he clearly does not understand how they work, though working in a hospital one would expect he uses one regularly? This would be a similar thing.   Using something and understanding it are clearly not the same thing. 

mooncrikit,

"Being a sceptic is fine as long as you create and build your own thread to do so."

Why on Earth would you start a thread with a question and then ask people not to contribute with their answers?

"In no time flat you have established yourself as one of if not the biggest most pompous empty suits ever to soil this site."

Well written introspection.

audio2design

MC and others commenting have neither the knowledge or experience to know at all what this thing is, or to understand what would be communicated about how it may work, be manufactured, etc. or to know if they were being fed a line or not.

The opinion of others here seems to be the equal of yours - you don't appear to have any unique insight into this.

Try to find all the threads here on A'gon forums to get more background on who and what...that's what I did...

facten...

No, I have been unable to find any info on these particular PPS version mats, hence my inquiring post here...I have contacted Krissy via PM but have yet to hear back from her.

mooncrikit,

Understand that MC and others commenting have neither the knowledge or experience to know at all what this thing is, or to understand what would be communicated about how it may work, be manufactured, etc. or to know if they were being fed a line or not.  They have never seen it being manufactured. They just have the word of mouth from a company with very limited technical abilities.



I am giving them the benefit of the doubt they were selling a product that did something, but there is nothing that gives any indication they had the experience, knowledge, equipment, etc. to develop or manufacture something like this.

Like I said, I am giving them the benefit of the doubt, so I will give them the benefit that they took a readily available EMI absorbing mat, branded it, and sold it to audiophiles. The upgraded one probably took the standard version and upgrade to a multi-material mat and/or one with an reflective coating that causes RF to pass through the material twice which can improve effectiveness.

Now, you can listen to a post from someone who may have some clue how this could work, what was likely, and likely difference, or you could listen to MC whose understanding of electricity, dielectrics, RF, etc. wouldn't get him through first year engineering school. 


Have at it in your thread.  Easy but wrong answers are readily found here.

@ audio2design , birds of a feather and all. They do not like people throwing water on their fire. I'm not entirely sure why this clannish behavior develops around audio products that can not possibly have any real benefit. Seems odd but hey, it is their money. I just pop in once in a while to justify my reputation.

Well said, mooncrikit, and thanks. Won’t do much good. You’re new so won’t know this but this site has a dedicated core of thread-wreckers. This is one the more despicable ones. We had one even worse and finally managed to banish him only to find his slot filled by this one. Sad. So sad.

In order that you get where I am coming from please have a look, actually no please study my system https://systems.audiogon.com/systems/8367

This system is chock full of the stuff you are asking about. Before going into what little I am able to reveal you really should study the system and comments from those who have heard it such as:

The imaging was so good that I felt like the vocalist was performing right in front of me and that I could reach out and touch them.
Chuck played a variety of genres so I was able to hear several different instruments and they all sounded very distinct...even the Piano!
During the middle of one song (I had my eyes closed) ,Chuck took the cables off the Cable Elevators; I immediately heard the sound become distorted and muddy.

Did you catch that last line? Eyes closed. No idea what I was doing. Heard it.
This alone blows away the BS of those such as the empty suits who do nothing all day but bash this stuff that others so obviously are able to hear. Makes you wonder if behind all their rage isn’t good old fashioned jealousy.

Here’s another one:

My listening impression was all the detail and nuances were presented to my ears in a most unique way. Unique to me because it was so far above any system I had heard including the last set of Monitor Audio Gold with a Prima Luna Integrated. I enjoyed hearing everything but was most shocked at Fleetwood Macs "Landslide"
Hearing it so many times in the past and then not recognizing the intro because of the detailed soundstage. Then Chuck let Stevie Nicks sneak into the room and begin the vocals dead center right in front of me and the recognition set in.

In case you don’t know that PL is a much better amp than mine and those Monitor Audio Gold speakers are almost twice the price. In other words a lot of why my system sounds so good- and it does sound freaking good! - is exactly these tweaks you are asking about.

Okay so with my credibility thus established- already told you just about all I can. Well technically could tell you a whole lot more. But sometimes one of the ways you get to learn a lot of cool stuff is for everyone to know you are a) credible and b) ethical. As in, not about to go blabbing proprietary info all over the interweb. Which is what this particular loser seems to think he can goad us into doing. Not happening.

What I can tell you is this is entirely new, original, and proprietary. The Mats that are out there are all almost exactly the same material, which is NOT any of the BS the blatherer thinks, and they sound so much alike I’ve never heard any difference. There’s some eCards I tried that one was silver the other copper, the copper was ever so very slightly warmer. No one would ever know other than side by side, and a lot not even then.

The composition of what goes into this stuff I am not even going to hint at. What I will say though is what totally triggers the haters, and that is what it does or how it works.

What we think of as the signal is not just electrons moving in conductors. Its not just current in wire. Its mostly fields. Fields that emanate in 3D and off to infinity. That’s not new-agey BS that’s science. Electromagnetic fields radiate off into infinity. Intensity falls off with distance but never really goes to zero.

Okay so this is why the geometry of cables, and the insulator around a cable matters. Synergistic Research made cables for many years with Active Shielding, essentially a sheath with 30VDC on a mesh wrapped around the cable. Still have some. Makes a huge improvement.

Well now, what if you take some material known to have interesting outer electron shell properties and put that near your component? I mean, besides the empty suits head explodes?

audio2design

Yes, you are correct. I did ask what the difference was. I didn't get "mad" at you...however since I asked for intelligent knowledgeable responses since I wasn't guessing, then your input here is suspect at best....please dropout of this thread like the gentleman you possibly can be unless you can offer up any responses that relate directly to the premise of what the difference is between these various versions. Whether you are a believer or not, which obviously you are the latter, doesn't give you or any doubter carte blanche to trash my thread. Being a sceptic is fine as long as you create and build your own thread to do so. So cordially, I ask you to stop pissing on my parade...oh and by the way...Thank you kindly for doing so..

My apologies back :-)  ... no hard done.

Ooppss! I obviously meant theaudiotweak...apologies to those offended.

You asked what was the difference mooncrikit.  If you don't like the answer, getting mad at me is not going to help.

Obviously MC does not really know or he would have put some more detail into "the same but only better". How so? 3db more attentuation?  Wider frequency range of operation?

If you just wanted to guess at the difference, why bother asking? That is all MC is doing.   Ditto for audiotweak.   I have no doubt they talked to the owner. I also have no doubt they never saw the manufacturing line or these being manufactured.  They have no test data, nothing but someone's word. They don't have intricate details of any sort or they would post them.

This nonsense is ridiculous. MC, your input was greatly appreciated. I started this thread to hopefully satisfy my curiosity. Now this thread has imploded to the point of becoming volatile, thanx to Audio2Design. There hopefully will be more intellectual input as opposed to this childish banter...sort of like when tough guys hear about a fight and want to know the particulars before committing their interest and time....

No MC, You don’t know.

You never saw the manufacturing facility for these mats.
You never saw them being manufactured.


You are just taking at faith what you were sold on. Some of us are not quite so naive.
That is the truth.  Tell us what happened to all the paid for tooling, intellectual property, etc. associated with these mats. You claim to be insider. So spill.

People don’t PM me asking what is wrong with you MC, they state it pretty clearly in practically every thread you post in.

Obviously I know

What you know or do not know is one thing. What you write however is quite another. Based on what you just wrote, what theaudiotweak just said is patently objectively unambiguously true. You know nothing. Absolutely nothing. Worse, what you have said is all false. There’s a few of us who absolutely do know what we’re talking about. You are NOT one of us. Furthest thing from it.  

No wonder I get people PM me asking WTF is up with this clown? Meaning you. In no time flat you have established yourself as one of if not the biggest most pompous empty suits ever to soil this site.

That is more than enough. I am done with you now. Spew whatever you want. Won’t be reading it.

Not mad just disappointed in someone who knows nothing about the individual who developed this product his life or his death or his legacy.  You don't so shut your receptacle..Did you ever converse with this person by phone, email or even text?? I doubt it. So again you have 0 experience of this product or this person. Tom

theaudiotweak,

Obviously I know a heck of a lot more than you about these things. I have no doubt the supplier stuck a sticker / backing on them, I understand some had a magnetic backing, perhaps he attached that. Makes it convenient.

However, given the website, writings of the owner at the time, etc. there was no indication at all of the ability to technically verify such items, to manufacture them, etc.   Feel free to put forth evidence that proves me wrong.

A product such as this would require significant investment to develop, prepare manufacturing tooling, etc. test, etc.   So where is this product now?  This would be an estate or corporate asset. 


It sounds like you got taken in by paying 4x for an audiophile branded EMI absorber. Don't get mad at me.

audio2design

You don't know a damn thing about this product. How it is made its composition or anything else. And these were made by the maker (now deceased) in New Hampshire located in the USA not offshore but onshore. Tom

As opposed to one type of rebranded EMI absorbing mat, it is either a thicker rebranded mat and/or rebranded mat with a reflector back to ensure signals pass through both.

I remember looking at this company about a year or two ago. I understand they went under when the owner passed away. Realistically, they didn't appear to have the knowledge, manufacturing capability, or test capability to develop something like this.  These are manufactured by companies like 3M, Laird, TDK, Kemet, and no doubt several companies in China.

Seriously, you will have a hard time discerning any difference in terms of sound. Anything beyond that is impossible to say without getting into the details of exactly what is in there. Which we don't know. And you can trust me on this - wouldn't say if we did.

Thanx for your input, MC! Anyone else that can delve into details as to what is different besides the label being black with a pink PPS logo?

The same, only better. No difference in terms of what they do or how they're used or where they work. I have them all, eCards too, and they are all the same in terms of sound.  

Mats by the way can be bent, folded, rolled, cut up, you name it. They work great on a lot of stuff but seem especially good around speaker drivers, speaker cables, power outlets, any place with a lot of fluctuating power.