Pass Labs XA-25 vs XA-30.8 amplifier


Has anyone listened to the Pass Labs XA-25 and XA-30.8 amplifiers? Can you share what you heard, as well as what the differences are besides rated power and cost? I’m thinking of using one of these amps with my Audiovector R1 Arrete speakers and REL T/9x subwoofer (source is Weiss 501 DAC/digital preamp).

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I had the XA-25 and the X150.8 in my home at the same time for a demo. Reno hi-fi, which is gone now, but was an authorized Pass Labs dealer, graciously loaned both to me. I listened to them primarily on Martin Logan Impression 11s, and also on a pair of KEF ls50s. The XA-25 was very clean, "water clear" is the term that kept coming to my mind. The X150.8 was bigger, more fleshed out, maybe a little warmer, and more engaging on the electrostatics. Maybe because the Martin Logan's can be a little dry and overly analytical. In any case, for me it wasn't even a contest, The humble X 150.8 just sounded better and more musical. I brought the XA-25 back to Reno hi-fi and kept the X150.8. I still consider it to be the best sounding amp I ever had on the Martin Logans. And I had a lot of amps on those speakers. The folks at Reno hi fi told me they weren't surprised, and that the XA-25 was so well reviewed that a lot of customers were disappointed and several ultimately traded it in for something from the 8 series. That of course is just one man's experience (mine).

Cheers,

Ron

When I was upgrading from my Nakamichi PA-7AII (A Nelson Pass Threshold design) I was convinced I wanted dual mono's. I tried the PS Audio M700's and The Schiit Tyr (both dual mono), but while they did help with the soundstage width and depth, they clipped. Turns out my 30+ year old power hungry Accoustat 1+1 will occasionally draw a 0.5 Ohm which was not a problem for the Nak. 

I contacted Nelson Pass and sought his guidance. He directed me to the XA-25. If there was not enough power, then the 30.8 was the next option, but he felt the sonic capabilities of the XA-25 were better and would be a great match for the Acoustats. I was concerned there would not be enough power because the Accoustats have an efficiency of 82 or 83 db depending on which source if referenced. I do help the efficiency with an active SPL Crossover allowing the dual Rythmik F12SE subs handle the bass. The XA-25 handles the speakers amazingly well. The only upgrade I would make would be if a dual mono version of the XA-25 became available. Nelson's person system has a pair of XA-25 as dual monos.

Try the XA-25. If you don't like it, then go for the 30.8.

I owned both the XA-25 and XA 30.8 amps.  I preferred the sound of the XA25 - more neutral but still sweet, incredible burst, dynamics and musical element separation.  

The XA30.8 was noticeably more powerful as it should be given that it produces 160 watts / 4-ohms.  It sounded too sweet and veiled in my system, a noticeable imprint on the music.