Organ transcriptions of classical works – do you prefer to or from?


To me, the console of a modern concert organ looks more like a jet cockpit than a musical instrument.  Even when the pipes are mechanically operated, there is a lot of automation available to the organist.  Rows of buttons (pistons) appear below the keyboards, and arrays of similar buttons (stops) open valves to ranks of similar sounding pipes.  One push of a piston can make dozens of stops switch in or out.

I recently went to an organ recital at the Sydney Opera House where a large screen gave the organist’s view of the console.  I found it next to impossible to make any mental connection between the keyboards, stops and pistons in terms of the sounds being produced!  The organist had an assistant to turn the scores, who sometimes also swooped in to poke buttons.  In other words, there was a lot of technology to set up and operate short-cuts.  Does this make it hard to keep up a musical flow?

Over the years, I have acquired recordings of orchestral music transcribed for organ.  At the same time, I have about an equal number of organ works transcribed for full orchestra.  By and large, I greatly prefer the latter.

Sir Edward Elgar transcribed a couple of JS Bach’s organ sonatas for full orchestra, and they are magnificent.  There are award winning orchestral transcriptions of Bach by Stokowski.

On the other hand, famous composers like Liszt have converted works by Wagner to the organ.  In the days before recordings, this was probably a way of publishing great music so it could be played without huge expense in the local church or hall.  But to me, even when played by a great organist, it misses the musical ebb and flow of the original work.

My last example is of Modest Mussorgsky’s Pictures at an Exhibition.  Originally a piano score, it was initially picked over by his contemporaries to correct what they thought were wrong notes.  Then Ravel orchestrated it, magnificently, followed by Stokowski and others.  My example however is a transcription of the original piano for organ, and it sounds woefully pedestrian even where appropriate in the bits where Modest walks between the pictures.

What do you think?

richardbrand

I am not fan either of classical music for others instruments transcribed for organ generally speaking...

There is too much astounding music written for organ which cannot be played on the piano or anything else without loosing something...

 I had two  11cd boxes of Pachelbel organ music one by Antoine Bouchard (No 1 for me) the other by Joseph Payne  (more spectacular but anyway only number 2 )

 

 This Pachelbel meditative music is astoundingly well written and because he was a close friend of Bach family father and sons he certainly let a mark which can be heard on the father and one of the son...

I enjoy it at the same level than Bach organ which  is more majestic generally , but Pachelbel strick a nerve by the resolute contemplative mood of his works...

Buy Antoine Bouchard  my favorite or Payne call this a great moment in your musical history...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ0p8lD0D2Q&list=PL0Q0AWwWtyucW7tnwC6fj5kbllud6ERjG

 

@toddalin 

Yep - the Nutrocker played automatically for me after the YouTube Pictures.  I found another copy on YouTube, so it may not have followed your link.

I did not mention Walter (now Wendy) Carlos' Bach played on the Moog synthesizer because the original works were not written for the organ.  I guess whatever rocks your boat - I did enjoy PictureRocker but not as much as the piano recording of Pictures played by Vladimir Horowitz.  Horowitz manages to insert lots of extra notes, particularly towards the end!

Then there are the Telarc recordings of Ravel's orchestrations.  It is one of my favourite works

I don't know if it was on that copy, but the CD/album also includes "Nutrocker" played on the Hohner Clavinet.

https://youtu.be/Wy0Ud-Dm7j0

@toddalin

Thanks for educating me!  There are 563 listings for Pictures on Presto Classical but I guess none will be as different as your favourite!  I am trying to find a copy near me ...

I think it illustrates my thesis that the organ sounds better when augmented or supplanted by other instruments ...

I had written a longer post that disappeared in the Audiogon ether.  It works well in Bach and Bruckner