There is no collective "we", other than we know it is just a matter of time until this thread, like most of your other silly ones, gets deleted. No doubt, sooner than later. |
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I politely suggest that the test of whether or not one has too much time on their hands is whether they read and reply to these Kenjit posts.
I realize I have just tested positive.
Still, proof of concept. |
The fact that one can audition as many different speakers as one cares to seek out and listen to is, in the act itself, "custom tuning" the speakers to your ears. The eyeglasses analogy is only partly relevant; just as no two people have identical vision, no two persons have identical hearing. Further, with the glasses, there is not an infinite number of ways to configure the lenses (the design parameters reside among a limited range of "plus" and "minus" values) just as there are not an infinite number of ways to design a speaker; the design must be developed from an existing finite set of crossover parts. The notion of a "deep state" of speaker manufacturers is just another deep state of confusion. |
For the record, if there is to much BOX tuning, or Flute playing.
We’ll have to tie your hands.. they’re not toys.. :-)
Man oh man am I bad..
Regards.. |
Hmmm, I’ll have to ponder that for a while... You writing skills are getting better K.. How’s that?
Yea you’re right... Oppression though.. I guess I’m lucky, spend 89 days in a 4 ft by 4 ft cage, eatin’ cockroaches in your rice.
I became quite the Yoga Expert in that time..
Speakers... oppression.. hmmm, ain’t workin’ for me K. Let’s be a little more careful, AY.. Some may take offence...
But yea, there is a LOT of overpriced, boxes out there.. AND some really nice ones.. Mine for one (actually 2).
Tune your own box, that's what I use to tell all the girls/boys. :-)
Kmini, and KMAX will be up and running by spring...Be patient..
Regards.. |
Anyone else imagining kenjit with rainbow hair, a bullhorn, and covered with a "THE END OF THE BUTTERWORTH CROSSOVER IS COMING!" placard?
Word to the wise, crinkle the tinfoil first, it makes for a more fashionable fedora. |
No big surprise here, this does not come cheap.
Neither does a Magico come cheap but theyre not even custom tuned are they?
If mass production is "evil" as you say it is, then only the most wealthy would have access to such bespoke consumer products.
Oh come on that already is true of high end speakers
How is it a benefit to mankind if audio gear was limited to the top one tenth of one percent of people?
High end audio is already very expensive. Custom tuning does not come into the equation even once you get to these prices. So the argument that it would be too expensive is clearly false. If DIY folks can custom tune their speakers without spending a fortune why cant they? The fact is that its just cheaper and easier to do it the way its done currently. Make one design and then mass produce that design and then sell them to the audiofools. You are agreeing that there is a conspiracy by implying that CUSTOM TUNING is indeed desirable but that theres a reason it cant be done. So the conspiracy is that the speaker industry is HIDING that fact from us and instead leading us to believe that their NON custom tuned designs are just as good if not better. |
The market is not conspiring to deny anyone the custom tailoring you seem to think we all deserve. It simply is not possible to mass manufacture products, which make them cheaper, AND make them bespoke. You want custom tailored clothing, you pay through the nose. If everyone demanded the same for every consumer product, there would not be enough workers or resources in the world to fill that kind of unreasonable demand.
Also, you CAN get custom designed speakers. I go to a shop that does just that--people come in and listen and make their preference known and one-of-a-kind speakers are built for them. The speakers are then installed in the buyer's system an tuned to their liking, which can mean not just speaker placement and adjustment of midrange and tweeter controls, but alternative choices in internal wiring, changes to crossover points and slopes, changes in crossover parts, and even changes in drivers. No big surprise here, this does not come cheap.
Wouldn't it be nice if you could get all your furniture custom designed to fit your body and aesthetic ideals, to board an airplane that has seats specifically designed just for you? Let's get real here. If mass production is "evil" as you say it is, then only the most wealthy would have access to such bespoke consumer products. How is it a benefit to mankind if audio gear was limited to the top one tenth of one percent of people? |
The existence of so many different designs is evidence of a complete lack of a controlled industry.
When you go to to the opticians you expect glasses that have been TUNED BY HAND to YOUR eyes and your eyes only. You would not find it acceptable if they sold you a pair of glasses with lenses that were close enough for your particular vision, would you now? But that is exactly what the speaker industry has done to us and we have blindly accepted it. Harman and the like, have forced us to believe that flat is best. They knew they couldnt sell us custom tuned to our ears speakers because it was a business model that wouldnt work so they took away our rights and began extolling the virtues of flat as pancake designs. How do you know you dont need or want custom tuned speakers? Have you ever been given the opportunity to be involved in the tuning process of a crossover? No you probably have not. In which case, you dont know what youre missing. How many audiophiles resort to adjusting the sound of their speakers with changes in positioning, cables, tweaks, and all manner of other devices to no avail? Thats evidence that audiophiles are rarely satisfied with mass produced magicos and wilsons. CUSTOM TUNING IS the only way |
For such "oppression" to be a reality, you must have a conspiracy or dominant monolithic power that controls the industry, which is simply the opposite of reality. With a low barrier to entry into the market, there are hundreds of different companies offering a dizzying array of products. You could devote your entire life to auditioning current and past models and I bet you would not be able to hear a tenth of what is out there. And if there were such a "monolith," how can you account for their being so many of the the "evil" designs being employed? The existence of so many different designs is evidence of a complete lack of a controlled industry. How can someone say there is such a variety of bad speakers and design out there and then say that there is no freedom of choice? |
Oppression, Kenjit? I find that insulting and demeaning to groups who have suffered genuine oppression. Perhaps you should rephrase you original post so as not to retraumatize those who have endured genuine suffering. Does this make sense to you? |
Any suggestions?
Hunger strike?
Marching and protests?
A sternly worded letter expressing disappointment?
Armed insurrection?
Suicide bombers?
Ask to speak to a manager?
A well aimed raspberry? |
