Paolo Nutini - "Last Night in the Bittersweet"
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@larsman: Before Cornell put together The Mondo Hotpants Orchestra, he and MHO bassist Frank Roeber had a 3-pc group named The Ragg Brothers. The 3rd member was lead guitarist Kim Muscatel (Cornell played rhythm on an acoustic guitar, like Dan Hicks), the same guitarist who was later in The South Bay Swing Band. A lot of San Jose’s most interesting musicians (the uninteresting ones formed bands like The Doobie Brothers ;-) passed through The Mondo Hotpants Orchestra, like Kim Winn (my travelling companion to Austin as mentioned above), Gary Dulleck (later the pianist in The South Bay Swing Band), Lyle Pratt (with whom I had been in a band in ’69), Jack Sanford and Larry Stokes (the sax players in The South Bay Swing Band), Joel Crawford (a very interesting guy whom I met in a class at De Anza College. We bonded through our love of The Hollies. He is a fanatic about that group), and of course Cornell’s younger brother Drew, also a member of The South Bay Swing Band. San Jose is a small city ;-) . So as you can see from the above, though I was never a member of Cornell’s band, I was in bands and groups with a lot of guys who were. For a reason I never understood, he kept Patrick Hennessy---a terrible, terrible drummer (he used Roto-Toms in place of mounted toms ;-)---in his band for years. It’s even more confounding as Cornell was himself a drummer. |
@bdp24 - again, thanks for that rundown, and I'll let Kevin know what you told me. Kevin was prematurely bald and had a beard and had a great DJ-style voice. After he left Banana Records, he went to work in sales for Capitol Records and then relocated from SF to Seattle. San Francisco is not half-bad for live music, either!! 👍 |
@larsman: Small world! I remember Kevin’s name, but can’t picture his face (I’m sure we’ve met, but the 70’s are somewhat of a blur ;-). Donut’s guitarist Paul Skelton was in Hurd’s Mondo Hotpants Orchestra, whom I first saw live at De Anza College in Cupertino. I have all TMHO 45’s and LP’s, and most of Cornell’s CD’s recorded since his relocation to Austin in the late-70’s. The last time I was in Austin my traveling companion (Kim Winn, formerly a member of TMHO) got up on stage with Cornell at The Broken Spoke and sang a song (Merle Haggard, George Jones, Hank Williams, or Johnny Cash? I don’t remember). I’ve known Kim since 1959, and played with him in numerous bands, the first in 1968. Skelton was playing his old Telecaster, sounding better than ever. For the Dave Alvin fans reading this: Cornell's female drummer left the band to join Alvin's band The Guilty Women. I never played with Cornell, but was in a band with Cornell’s younger brother Drew, a Jump Blues/Swing band named The South Bay Blues Band (changed to The South Bay Revue after we added a black female vocalist to share the front of the stage with Drew). Drew was of course also a member of The Mondo Hotpants orchestra off-and-on over the years. A giant pothead ;-), and 78 collector. I saw The Plimsouls live a lot, one of my favorite L.A. bands (along with The Beat, Los Lobos, The Blasters, The Long Ryders, and The Continental Drifters). The last time I saw The Plimsouls live was in the mid-80’s, at a small place on Ventura Blvd. in Studio City named The Garage. My gal (a huge Plimsouls/Peter Case fan) and I got there in time to hear the opening act---whose name I had never before heard---start their set. They began their opening song, and she and I looked at each with mouths agape---they were fantastic! It was Los Lobos, who had not yet recorded their debut English language album. There’s no better place for live music outside of Austin than Los Angeles! |
@bdp24 - hey, man - thanks for that rundown. The Donuts sounds vaguely familiar as I used to be a regular denizen of the Mab from when they started doing punk gigs in '76 till around '79 and the atmosphere started getting more 'aggressive'. This woman I hung out with was really good friends with Danny Mihm, who was drumming with the Groovies at the time, so I'd see him at a lot of parties. I loved the Plimsouls, and another from around that time I was keen on were the Bongos.... I can't believe you said Cornell Hurd - Kevin McCaffrey, who used to manage Cornell Hurd and his Mondo Hotpants Orchestra, is a really good friend of mine; he hired me on to be assistant buyer at the Banana Records chain... We email back and forth all the time. Did you know Kevin? |
@larsman: The gig with The Groovies was when I was in The Donuts, a 5-piece band with 3 guitarists. The main songwriter and lead singer was Chris Hauptman, whose voice is somewhat similar to that of Elvis Costello. He is a very good Pop/Rock songwriter (think Squeeze and Marshall Crenshaw), great chord progressions and melodies, lots of hooks. In San Francisco we played Mabuhay Gardens a few times, and the Keystone in San Francisco & Berkeley. The Groovies loved us, singer Chris Wilson exclaiming "Rock ’n’ Roll"! when our take on Buddy Holly’s "Love’s Made A fool Of You" ended. That song was our only cover; I played the band the version by The Bobby Fuller Four, suggesting it would be perfect for us. The name started out as a joke. The Donuts were originally a very Pop sounding group with a girl lead singer (Lisa Bosch, now performing around SoCal as a Stevie Nicks tribute singer. She was the donut hole ;-), and had one song with her ("Johnny Johnny") included on the 415 Records sampler album. We moved to L.A. in search of fame and fortune, and started playing around town. We debuted at The Troubadour (just like Elton John ;-), then played Madam Wongs, The Hong Kong Cafe, Blackies, The Starwood, etc. I eventually noticed Lisa sang---not flat, which is not uncommon---but sharp. Very rare (and not good). I suggested we replace her, which is where Chris Hauptman came into the picture. We did some demos in ’81 with Tchad Blake (Los Lobos, Costello, T Bone Burnett, Richard Thompson, Tom Waits, etc. The big time ;-), he bringing a Nagra portable to our rehearsal room (we also did some overdubs in the room where The Stones recorded "Satisfaction". The room was huge!). He told us he played the tapes of all his recent projects when he was recording The Plimsouls s/t album that came out on Planet Records, and that the only music Peter Case liked was ours. Too bad Peter wasn’t a record label A & R man ;-). With no record deal secured, Hauptman moved to NYC, guitarist Paul Skelton to Austin (he played on the first Wayne Hancock album), reuniting with our old friend from San Jose, Cornell Hurd (his songs have been recorded by a number of people, including Junior Brown), working in his band until he too succumbed to Lung Cancer (yet another 2-pack-a-day man). The last time I saw Paul on stage was at Threadgills, a clear plastic tube running from an air canister off stage into his nostrils. Grim. I remained in L.A., playing in all kinds of musical situations. Pop, Singer/Songwriter, Rockabilly, C&W, Blues, Instrumental, Surf, Lounge, even a coupla movie soundtracks. I’ve done some live playing and recording since my move to the Portland area, but the road has about come to an end. A couple of the guys I worked with in L.A. have died (Emitt Rhodes, John Wicks of The Records), as has Evan Johns (3 albums on Rykodisc, but I did his Moontan album on an indi. He was a maniac!). Others have retired. Rock ’n’ Roll is a young man’s game, and those who don’t realize that end up making fools of themselves. Except Dylan, of course ;-) .
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@bdp24 - What band were you in back then? I might have seen you at some point! Also, that 8-CD Little Feat set is 4 complete concerts.... |
@bdp24 What a Write Up and Thanks! Enter Shake Some Action in the Search Bar at Acoustic Sounds and you will find the LP.
David
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@djohn: I’ve done the same on a number of my Acoustic Sounds orders (to get free shipping)! They were selling the Groovies’ Shake Some Action LP? (I don’t see it on the site now). That’s funny, ’cause the album is hardly what I would call audiophile ;-) . The Groovies had a few different era’s, with different line-ups and sounds. The first era---ignoring the self-released 1968 10" EP Sneakers (which I bought that year, but is now rather expensive)---was 3-albums long (the first on Epic, the second and third on Kama Sutra), when they had a harder, more Stone’s influenced sound. They were at-that-time aligned with the late-60’s/early-70’s bands such as The MC5 (with whom they did a number of shows) and The Stooges. Part of that sound was a healthy dose of "Garage" style. When those albums didn’t sell, the original line-up dissolved, soon thereafter reforming with only songwriter/lead guitarist/singer Cyril Jordan (great Rock ’n’ Roll name, ay?) and bassist George Alexander remaining. New members were lead singer/rhythm guitarist/songwriter Chris Wilson, drummer David Wright, and guitarist James Ferrell (yes, a 3-guitar line-up, something I love. The pre-1972 Fleetwood Mac, Moby Grape, Buffalo Springfield, etc.). The new Groovies created a very different sound, one which some of their old fans didn’t care for as much. Cyril explained that their new sound (more Beatles than Stones) was one they had always been trying to create but were not able (it’s far easier to sound like The Stones than The Bealtes ;-). They did some recording at Gold Star in the mid-70’s (lots of covers, and some live-in-the studio demos), those recordings coming out on UK and European labels. Sire Records owner Seymour Stein was a Groovies fan, and had a relationship with Greg Shaw, the owner of a very hip Los Angeles independent label (Bomp Records), who was managing the group (their fan club president was Miriam Linna, original drummer of The Cramps). Greg was very aware of Welshman Dave Edmunds, whose first two solo albums (he had previously been in the group Love Sculpture) had created quite a buzz in the "true" Rock ’n’ Roll community. Greg executive produced the Shake Some Action album, hiring Edmunds to produce it. I’ve never heard anything remotely like it (it combines the group’s and Edmunds’ love of 1950’s R & R, The Beatles very early sound, Phil Spector, and lots of other elements) , and love it to death. I can’t wait to hear what YOU think! The group lasted for two more albums on Sire (former Charlatans Mike Wilhelm replacing James Ferrell after SSA), Flamin’ Groovies Now produced again by Edmunds, Jumpin’ In The Night by Roger Becherian and Cyril Jordan. Roger is better known for his work with Elvis Costello, Nick Lowe, Squeeze, and Paul Carrack. One of their last shows with that line-up was in the summer of ’81, at a small club in a San Francisco suburb, the band I was then playing in opening for them. I loved ’em, but a guitarist I knew was at the show, and found them to be far too "garage-y" for his liking. But then he liked Progressive, so who cares what he thought? ;-) The Groovies’ disappeared for years, their latest album (Fantastic Plastic---get it next) being the first in a LONG time. The new line-up sees Cyril Jordan and Chris Wilson reunited, with various drummers (one of them being Prairie Prince of The Tubes) and bassists (George Alexander plays on some songs) used for recording the album. |
What great timing that I found your post. I was trying to get one more LP into an Acoustic Sounds Order and I saw you comments on The Flamin’ Groovies. Checked out some Song Videos and I was Sold. Placed the Order but you will have to enlighten me if there are any more of their LP’s that I should explore.
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@jafant: 8 CD’s?! Those musta been a coupla damn long concerts (the original 2-LP album is drawn from two live shows) Little Feat played! I’ll be looking for this boxset, thanks. The evolution of this band is interesting to me. Lowell George was not at all interested in the Jazz Fusion direction in which Bill Payne and Paul Barrere were attempting to take the band, a sentiment with which I can empathize. Little Feat are best remembered by Lowell’s songwriting, which I first became aware of when hearing "I’m Willin’" on Seatrain’s s/t album. A great song done by many, but their version remains my favorite. You never forget your first? ;-) |
Dang, hip crowd ;-). Yeah, I’m big on Pub Rock. Like Graham Parker’s first coupla albums. And I just found Taxi To The Terminal Zone by Ducks Deluxe (also produced by Dave Edmunds) on LP. And The Groovies are actually still limping along. I was in my great local record store (Music Millennium in Portland) right before the Pandemic hit, and I heard them playing on the store’s sound system. I went up to the main counter to see 1- what album of theirs was playing (I hadn’t heard the song before, and I have all their records, dating all the way back to their self-issued 10" Sneakers, bought in San Jose at the time of it’s initial release in 1968), and 2- who had put it on the turntable. It turned out to be 1- their new-at-the-time Fantastic Plastic album (Cyril Jordan---great Rock ’n’ Roll name!---and Chris Wilson are the sole remaining members, yet they still sound exactly the same), and 2- put on the player by a 25-year old chick (okay, young woman) employee, a huge Flamin’ Groovies fan. She’s a classically-trained pianist (so much for trained musicians being Jazz or Classical snobs ;-), and real cute taboot! Made me wish I had been born later ;-( . |
@bdp24 - Yeah, Flamin' Groovies were great; their earlier stuff like Teenage Head, with their original singer the late, great Roy Loney is excellent as well... Sounds like you're a 'pub-rock' fan.... |
@bdp24 I liked the Goovies album you mentioned quite a bit. Reminded me a bit of SLOAN from Canada. A group I liked as a teenager and still play. |