There exist at minimum 3 embeddings of an audio systems...
But one of them has 2 side: the passive room treatment with absorbent or reflective materials, and the active acoustical space modifications of the rooms...
They are not synonymous at all...They are not the same thing even if they play a role in the modification of the acoustic...
I use the "singing" reflectors and the Helmholtz resonators in a way very complementary to the passive room treatment but they are not the same thing...They are used in a more active way because of the importance of the locations , height, and orientations in the room...
The modified Schumann Generator are another powerful active way to modify the acoustical space...The more active and impactful one in his effects...
Then keep in mind when we speak about three embeddings:
1-The mechanical environment of each electronic component (vibrations-resonances controls)
2-The electrical grid of the room and of the house
3a-the passive room treatment with materials 3b-the active acoustical space modifications
" We must keep the number of distinctions smaller than the number of working neurons" -Groucho Marx
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Another interesting fact...
Some plates and stones have fallen from the breaker panel in my basement, unbeknownst to me... I was listening new unknown files for the first times after a trip of 2 days, without using my audio system and dont realize it immediately...When I put a files I know by heart for 30 years, Bach Organ by Walcha, I was frustrated immediately by a loss in the imaging space...My wife comes and speak to me about the falling off in the basement...I go down, repair it and WOW... The imaging comes back like in his first glory...
For those who think " placebo" effects... Think about this story... :)
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Ok I live an unexplained something today...A miracle without any prayer saying before it happens...
I like my Mission Speakers very much, The Cyrus 781 are the best speakers Mission ever made... This is the opinion of someone that know them all and sold them for years...
I read all I can before buying a pair for 80 bucks...But they were broken, one of them was with a less powerful tweeter than the other...I call back the seller and I say that his speakers were in bad shape...I bought them without listening to them and now I want my money back... He offers me to cut the price half and I said ok to the deal...
I connected them, and I learned to like them a step at a time... At this time few years ago my tweaks were not in their actual state... I compensate with the balance control the imbalance of the speakers...It was annoying but they were better even with this imbalance than the other Mission speakers I bought few months before, a very good Mission model also...
The miracle happen few weeks after I put 2 "golden" plates behind each of the back of these speakers, the sound improvement were audible immediately...
Now this week my wife observed that the speakers imbalance that was there just some days ago, were no more there...I put the balance control to his normal setting and effectively the 2 speakers now sound on the same level of power intensity at this setting balance...
No explanation, no change, except these "golden" plated added to the speakers.... How can speakers repair themselves? Is the electronic component electrolytic stimulated by the shungite? I dont know engineering audio nor electronic...But now I have perfect speakers …. :)
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Update about my "singing" resonators and reflectors...
The configuration of my audio room is not a perfect square...Furniture occupy it irregularly, and one of the speaker is enclosed against a wall for half his surface...A very bad position and remember that all my electronical components are on my desk near a computer...The controls of vibrations-resonance was fundamental...The cleaning of the electrical noise also...It is the reason why I discover by myself the 3 embeddings of an audio system is the ONLY key that opens the door of audiophile experience...Not the price paid for electronic components like most believes in...
How to create an imaging that is good and entertaining and immersive for that room and for 2 dissymmetrically placed speakers, in my 2 possible listening positions, in nearfield and in a regular one ?
How to reinforce the bass response without alterating the other parts of the spectrum ?
By a selective placement, locations, height, orientation, of my 10 sets of 5 "singing resonators and reflectors ( metal bucket+ one stone in the center with a copper tape crossing the aperture of each one). Low cost and flexibility of orientation make be able to project the sound in the way I want...
I use many other acoustical methods: Schumann generators, Helmholtz resonator, varied materials for absorption on the walls and ceiling....All low cost (S.G.) if not homemade...But without the "singing reflectors I would not be able a so flexible orientation of the sound flows in the room...
Is it perfect? No... Is it very good? Yes...
Cost of the 50 metal buckets 100 dollars... Try that with official acoustical materials and calculate the cost... Brass would cost me thousand of dollars and would probably be better tough... :)
My audio room is astonishingly good... My ears never waited for engineers to say so.... :)
" Unlike my wife my ears speak and listen to each other at the same times"- Groucho Marx
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Update about liliputian Herkimer diamonds :
I added one on all my 8 Schumann generators in the audio room, the more I added the more the sound increase in clarity and softness without any lost on any count... I added now 3 liliputians on the black Hong-kong Ufeel costlier S.G. that sit on top of my computer screen, between the 2 speakers, and wow...
Never the Grumiaux violin in Bach concertos has been so atmospherical and detailed, the imaging more spacious and the orchestra more present... I listen to this cd for 30 years...I think I know it...
If you want to know what is a good sound, it is difficult to convey that in words even with the best metaphor, but if you cannot stop listen after hours and hours, that is the beginning of a good sound... :)
I will repeat myself, how a .175 gram stones can be more powerful than all other stones, enhancing them all ? It is only a quartz variety that look like quartz, even if it is called Herkimer diamond... Miracles indeed for 2 dollars all in all... :)
It is not first with money that you can afford a good sound it is with attentive ears and experiments....Nothing else... :)
"What is sound? A fractal pattern... What is a crystal? A fractal pattern.. What is an electromagnetic field? A fractal pattern... Then what are your helicoidal ears? " - Groucho Marx
" What is a fractal pattern? An information unfolding and self-structuring itself at all scales" Groucho Marx
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But I must gives you that you always makes me smile.... Thanks and enjoy the day....My best.... :) |
Many years ago a very wise man named Bernard Baruch took me aside and put his arm around my shoulder. "Harpo my boy," he said, "I'm going to give you three pieces of advice, three things you should always remember." My heart jumped and I glowed with expectation. I was going to hear the magic password to a rich, full life from the master himself. "Yes sir?" I said. And he told me the three things. I regret that I've forgotten what they were. - Harpo Marx
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Sometimes it is difficult to seriously speak to you …. :)
I will call Groucho to my rescue...
"The space of my room is indeed the other side of the moon " - Groucho Marx
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OK, I’ll bite. Why not? Is it crouching tigers, flying lizards? |
My S.Q. is so good right now that I put photos where they can be seen for the time being...
How a so tiny quartz piece, 15% of a gram, be so potent?
Or is it the power of the S.G. conveying the structural quality of the liliputian H.D. on top of the Tourmaline+"golden" plate, transforming the acoustical space of the room?
It is not solely the piezo effect for sure.... :)
If it was the piezo effect only, the 3 gram H.D. at the same spot would be more efficient than the same stone, weighting 1/ 16 of his weigh...But on the contrary the liliputian has almost more power to transform the acoustical space of the room and with a more subtle softness and a strong dynamic....
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OMG! That was a close one! For a second I thought you were going to say you put a photo in your freezer. 🥶
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third update on liliputian H.D.
I just put a photo in my "virtual system" section of a liliputian H.D. on top of Tourmaline+"Golden" thin plate with a cabled S.G. under that... :)
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second update for the liliputian H.D.
These liliputian H.D. are the way to go with the tourmaline+ the thin golden plate on the Schumann generators... They are powerful...This is an incredible amazing tweaks, that cost nothing...The imaging and softness, and clarity of the sound exceed everything I added before... This was evident after few minutes of listening, but after many hours of listening the sound is so good on all files I know by heart that I am flabbergasted... I just said some days ago to my wife that I cannot imagine a new increase in S.Q. for the times to comes... :)
How can .150 of a gram of a variety of quartz stone( called Herkimer Diamond) can be so potent? Equal for his audible effect to 450 gram of shungite or tourmaline?
An effect very soft and powerful at the same time....I have no clue …. :)
I will go back to the magical Bach organ now.... My best...
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Update for the liliputian H.D.
The effect is confirmed for me and surprisingly subtle but evident, a more softness in the imaging, without any loss, in any aspects of the sound...The effect remind me of a change of cable ...Like with my Morrow M3 compared to ordinary interconnect...It is in the same order...
I am flabbergasted that adding a .200 gram thin Herkimer diamond produce a change....on top of a chunk of tourmaline... On 6 of my 8 Shumann generators...The liliputian H.D. seems powerful on another level compared to the 2 or 3 gram H.D. they seems to add a softness that was not there even with the big H.D.
For using behind speakers for example, a golden plate + a big H.D. will be better... We need a powerful action there to balance the shungite…
For using with the S.G. we need a more subtle action no less powerful but more toward softness than cleanliness...Then the liliputian H.D. are the best...
Audio is not what we think it is at all, engineers, audiophiles or whoever we are; audio is a complex activity combining many artefacts in an experience always new, implicating more than one science, and some unknowns to discover and perhaps even more than we think at the end....
I cannot stop listen what I listen to, now Vivaldi, with a softness that is miraculous with the Biondi violins...
All that for 2 dollars for my 16 liliputian marvels....... :)
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A note about Herkimer diamonds...
I use H.D. normally of 1 or 2 grams...
I try some very little one on top of tourmaline stones that are themselves on my S.G. They weigh only a fraction of a gram...
Incredibly for me they seems to work with the same impact that the bigger one...they are like thin sticks, like an antenna, that enhance the tourmaline stone linked to the S.G. the effect is mostly a more beautiful distinct imaging...
These S.G. modified transform the acoustical space in a way that no materials for room treatment, nor any resonator, Helmholtz one or others can equal...
I dont need an explanation to hear it tough.... :)
The cost for this experiment was a 2 dollars amount for 16 little H.D. 3.5 grams in total...
I test that with the 100 transcendental studies for piano by K. Sorabji, a genius for the future...
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geoffkaitI will takes this good advice for me … thanks Geoffkait :) |
It’s human nature to become more and more attached to one’s own ingenuity and to embrace his results and conclusions with great fervor. But, I caution you, gentle readers, one must be open minded at all times and ready to change directions at the drop of a hat 🎩 It can be quite difficult to break out of the lower energy orbit into a higher energy orbit. As John Lennon advised, there is nothing to get hung about. Sometimes we benefit from taking a break from our daily routines. As Groucho Marx advised to his guest with ten children, I like my cigar but I take it out sometimes. |
Human owns their habits like a shirt, they know that it is an habit but they are proud of it or try to makes that habits an object to be proud of and not only a relative action...
I had discussed with some about their audio system and reviews and reviewers, and they cannot see that their tastes are habits solely acquired through certain limiting circumstances and that owning a relatively good audio system is not related directly and mostly to these relative tastes... Then reading reviews of electronic components of someone with the same taste habits is only slightly more useful than reading the financial markets, if our goal is to create a real relatively good audio experience for ourselves...
This creation is directly relative to our own conscious works and experimental plays with the 3 conditions linked to the embeddings of the audio system in a mechanical system (vibrations-resonances controls) in the acoustical field of a room and in the electrical grid of the room and of the house...(There is also others confitions than these 3, but we must begins somewhere with the most basic one)
Where is tastes in that context? How tastes can play any other role than a secondary one? We all had the same taste and dream about a real Hi-Fi experience and the objective conditions to realize it...Tastes comes on after all that and is more an anecdotal preference, linked to the place we comes from, than a real factor for an objective experimental creation...
Reviews and reviewers are entertaining. sometimes informative, but they act like many pro and not pro-reviewers did, relativizing finally all to "tastes"...They dont speak, forgetting any specific electronic component whatsoever, about how to make them all great, whatever the components... Who will sell anything if the set of all very good electronic audio components is too large?
I wanted that to be said somewhere without hurting feelings... :)
"Before choosing my wife sure I taste it " -Groucho Marx
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"Sometimes someone comes out of somewhere, usually it is me out of the strawberry jam pot" -Groucho Marx |
I am waiting, waiting for someone to come out of somewhere.
Get smart, get well, hang around the ink well.
Sometimes to create you must first destroy.
Made the scene, week to week Day to day, hour to hour The gate is straight Deep and wide Break on through to the other side Break on through to the other side Break on through, break on through Break on through, break on through
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I am in the same boat out of time... :) |
*G* Yeah, it's Fryday, after all....
Being 'self-employed' and 'self-deployed', it's occasionally difficult to notice where in the week one is.... ;) |
Welcome to my ghosts...
Have a nice day... :)
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I dare say we’re entering The Teleportation Tweak territory, men. I have been counseling lo these many years telephones 📞 and cellphones 📱 are bad news for the sound. Imagine how bad the sound is in a room at CES filled with a bunch of people with cellphones. 😩
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....dusts the woofers, anyway..... |
...and I'm a ghost in the city, looking at the Infinite Forum....*G* Putting gold plates on phone boxes may lead to 'harder stuff'.....phone phantasy beyond one's darker dreams, when They find out....what you've done.....@ 3:19
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZJsjPY2A3w
....I'm not paranoid....anymore.....;) ...since it's over....done... |
N’th update :
I dont understand nor I had any explanation at first for the reason why putting the golden plates on telephone boxes in my basement causes so enormous improvement...Way more details across all frequencies...
But few minutes ago I think that my audio system upstream begins with the optical line, the optical cables that the telephone company Bell use, and these 2 boxes are directly connected to my computer and to my dac by this way...Then not only the central breakers panel is important, the 2 telephone boxes are on par with the breakers for the S.Q decrease or increase....My best...
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Wow! Blake is one of the true great genius of all humanity...I cannot thanking you enough for this reminder you put here of this fact...
" The universe has no outside, and the cell no inside, why do I have the two ? " - Groucho Marx
"Why do you put all these words in your mouth M. Marx? Because we lend only to the riches" -Groucho Marx
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"To see a World in a Grain of Sand And a Heaven in a Wild Flower Hold Infinity in the palm of your hand And Eternity in an hour...."
W.Blake - Auguries of Innocence (1863) |
thecarpathianI cannot thank you enough for your many kind remarks with passing times... I will pray God for you... My best and for sure some maté wait for you.... |
ghosthouseMy wife just said to me that I rant about an atom of dust in the air...I think this is true... :) I am very happy to welcome and thank you for your nod....From my heart, will light be between us all.... |
My friend, you have many "ghosts" haunting this thread. They are silently listening, but they are there.......
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@mahghister - I admire your "chutzpah". Don't get discouraged. Keep it up!
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I think that people dont like the fact that I pretend with a cheap audio system to rival their costly one, more than that, as if that weren't enough, with improvised homemade tweaks at low cost... The insult is double... :)
I apologize.... But some beginners will perhaps learn something and thanks me, this is my only reward... My best...
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Third update:
The golden plates on the 2 telephone box lines were really something...After 2 hours listening, clarity exceed any other improvement effects including bass enhancement...
I had order 2 more shungite plates (300 gr each), and will create 2 new golden plates...(25 dollars ordered paid and delivered)
I had pick surreptitiously the plates I put on the telephone boxes from the main router at the desk of my wife where there was 3 of them already, because I want to experiment with on the tel. boxes... :)
She ask to me : " Where are the 2 missing one?" I said on the tel. boxes in the basement... She replied:" At the end you think more about sound than about me".... oufff…. I must replace the missing one now... Shungite plates protect from negative field radiations the biological organism according to some Russian research... By the way I put shungite in my refrigerator with great success with all vegetables and fruits staying fresh more longer... The skeptical mother of my wife owns a "bad" refrigerator that she hated till the day where I put some shungite, now tells all people around about the "miracles" in his refrigerator...
You must know that I dont gives a dam about any spiteful smiles from some readers... :)
" I love you more than music, off course the radio is off now" Groucho Marx
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Update to the last update:
Sometimes it takes very familiar recent listenings to gives a total "awestruck" moment...
For the last weeks I listen to the Bach trio sonatas at the organ with Helmuth Walcha, by far the more spiritual interpretation of Bach, with the likes of cellist Fournier, violinist Henryk Szeryng and few others...
What struck me immediately was the more impact and clarity of bass frequencies...Organ is a good way to listen that, I listen to others files and noted improvement all around on all counts but this one was so more evident...The bass notes was bothering me now in a pleasant way... :)
Then beware, pay attention to the phone boxes of the house....Any element of the electrical grid contributes to the noise level, any....
For any audiophile any incremental improvement seems the end of the world and in some way it is....The key is working out that by yourselves without paying thousands of dollars...More fun ! And believes me it lead at the end to the same asymptotical basin of attraction that is : a more living sound...
" We must pay attention to attention itself" -Groucho Marx
" We must pay attention in dollars." Harpo Marx
" We must pay nothing more" Chico Marx
" We must tweaks and turn at each corners" Zeppo Marx
"We will do nothing more for attention or money" Gummo Marx
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Update:
I make another little discovery with great impact for me...
I put some 2 "golden" plates in my basement on 2 electronical boxes of the Bell telepnone lines...I forgot these one, it seems not important compared to the breaker central box or the router...I am stupid :) all the electrical grid post and cables count...The 2 "golden" plates in some way works filtering the mushy waters (electrical courant)… It is only metaphor to convey my impressions but when something happens there is a cause...I will not wait to understand before experimenting...
After placing these 2 new plates on the phone boxes: Instantaneous improvement on all counts...Clarity, dynamic, imaging….
For those who speak of audiophile placebos, think about that: why if placebos explain all, some of my experiments gives nothing audible, and some others degrade the sound ? Placebos is always there for sure, it is linked to our unconscious expectations, placebos increases the effect of that which already work and in the body increase reaction without any substance because we expect it believing that the substances is there... But I dont believe that my non treated breaker central box will increase suddenly the quality of sound without anything being implemented...This box is not my reacting feeling body ….Some "objectivist" are more clueless than most audiophiles...:)
The embeddings in the electrical grid is by far the most important task for an audiophile , after the acoustical field treatment of the room and the mechanical (vibrations-resonance) embeddings...Reviews are entertainment and motivation to bought before thinking... :)
I am amazed that almost no one ever report their experiments here inspired by my very low cost recommendation...And all are buying costly tweaks or electronics components...If it cost nothing and if he does not sell it that’s nothing to bother about ….
I am too old to want to makes money, but I would like some try one of my tweaks and thanks me....
:)
" I pay gold for my tv and your face is way better" - Groucho Marx
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Update:
I came back with the S.G. optimal modifications : my 8 S.G. ( 7 cheap one) are now all modified with a thin "golden" plate+ tourmaline or Herkimer diamond or the 2 ...
Clarity all across the board, imaging out of speakers 3-d, natural timbre, dynamics without compression...
But the last and most difficult thing to get right was the atmosphere and space impressions of the recording room or theater or live event...If you prefer only studio sound and dont like the sound of live events or vast theater in your cd files, it is a sign that your audio system is not at his optimal, and the level of noise is too high... The best room treatment, and the best vibrations controls are not enough to get there... It takes methods to decrease the electrical noise floor, and other way than just acoustic materials to modify the acoustic of your room... The S.G. modified are great for that and different resonators ...
It takes some experiments to try and discover the good formula...I wait now for the final 2 big shungite tiles to makes the 2 last "golden" plates for the main router and the main breaker panels...
I dont know if a better product than mine exist? Probably, but I dont even dare to dream to buy one...Music is music now...
Most of the times really most of us really dont know what they misses in the sound quality, whatever electronic components we use...The embeddings of these components is the real definition of HiFi, absolutely not the stamp of commercial makers, so good they are... This is the truth I bring to light by myself...Some pointed to me the general direction, but I never tought that this will be a so great journey... :)
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For the anecdote, I had participate to another thread that was erased without explanations by some moderator... I regret it because, never mind the delicate subjects raised, the meeting places was interesting with all sort of characters...But I understand that speaking about non-audio matters is not always a good idea, but intensity of exhanges can create friendship also and not only aversion,or agressive language...
Anyway I am not in the boots of the moderator, even if I miss discussions... Here no problem of moderation, ghosts dont argue...And perhaps a relaxing island is at the end better....:)
"Peace is like luck, we want it only when we miss it" Groucho Marx
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I want to add this... We never know all what we miss in a piece of music when our audio system is not in a controlled and treated embeddings, mechanically, acoustically and electrically; even with very good electronic components...
My estimate , metaphorically speaking in using numbers, is half of the music sounds is veiled or not there at all and if there is only with 2-d imaging, and instruments not at the right place, on the right intensity level ... :) |
Thanks thecarpathian for the nodding head on the road... We are 2 travelers in musical spaces...My mate is cold and delicious and wait for you... My best... |
I am happy your hard work and dedication are paying off with greater musical enjoyment, my friend. Even though I think that it is less hard work for you and more enjoyable work! |
Most likely the Himalayan salt lamps are placebos. They look pretty, though. Such a nice color of pink.
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This evening I disconnect 4 of the S.G., and after that 3 others, keeping only one...I disconnect also the three himalayan salt lamps, 2 under my desk and speakers, one near my desk at my right...
Interesting experiment with the expected confirmative results, not a placebo one, the imaging was recessing, contracting, with less flesh to the instrument timbre...The sound was less projected in the room and more attached to the speakers...
I speak of that experiment to say this: each incremental tweaking in the mechanical embedding of the audio system by limitation of vibrations-resonance effects, or each incremental modifications of the room acoustics with different materials and different resonators, each incremental modifications of the electrical embeddings of the audio system by adding the golden plates and different stones or crystals, each one of these incremental modifications and tweaks added some little but very audible effects... Till I reach my actual imaging where the sound is clear, natural and projective in 3 dimension in the room without being attached to the speakers anymore...
Experimental listening is the way...
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I promise I will read your reaction and words... :)
But dont bother too much, you will learn anything that you dont already know, and even if you are the most frequent ghost here, i wrote my rant for silent beginners...
And yes I try to create what I believe in audio matters at least for myself....
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“Because it’s what I choose to believe.” - Dr. Elizabeth Shaw, Chief Science Officer, Prometheus
I promise I will go back and read your entire post, mahgister. 😃 |
In the beginning of my quest for a true Hi-Fi experience, I feel powerless... What can you do without any basic audio system, without money, and without any knowledge ?
I begins with buying the best I can in the low scale spectrum of audio system. The results was not there, the sound was always artificial and 2 dimensional after many purchases and trials and errors...
Then I read and after 1000 hours I bought the right stuff, a vintage amplifier, a very good used speaker pairs, a new minimalistic designed dac at almost no cost (+headphones)...
My actual audio system is this one, basic, mid-fi quality but very carefully chosen and very good in theory... Remember that I cannot listen to anything before buying... And anyway people has the illusion they can listen to the stuff before buying but it is not the case because no audio system sound the same in different prepared or even not prepared embeddings (be it an acoustical, mechanical, or electrical embeddings) ...
When I listen to this system out of the boxes, and absolutely not prepared in the embeddings of my house, I was happy but very disappointed... The sound was not enthralling at all...Not living, not 3-d, not natural timbre for instrument really; it was better than with the first components before these one but not a world changing experience... I was very disappointed... After all my Mission Cyrus Speakers are very good speakers not trash, the Sansui AU 7700 was a legend and one of the best vintage amp... The dac i own is so good that even today I dont perceive any limitations... Then why my listening experiment were so disappointing?
I begins to read a lot, each day... And I begins to experiments without even knowing that I experimented in the first place... :)
I begins to makes different preparation first for the mechanical embeddings, more conscious about vibrations-resonance problems...
Then I begins to treat the wall of my room, homemade no cost stuff... At my surprize my sound begins to improves...
I go on with the electrical embeddings with a big chunk of quartz on the breaker panels...I was surprized to hears something like a change... I go on with enthusiasm buying stones and crystals to investigate their different impacts on my sound pleasure...
Making my story short, I cannot repeat all that is written in part in these thread, my audio system begins a total metamorphosis... The system I dont really like begins to be a system I loved much and much... And now I smile and say to some beginners, trust yourself, and create heaven, that will not cost necessarily much money...Only basic good components, playful mind, listening experiments, homemade stuff most of the times, and at the end a real hi-fi experience will surprize you...
The most important lesson I learned was that it is not the so called hi-cost quality of the electronic components of an audio system that makes great audio experience, it is the careful controlled preparation of the 3 embeddings of any audio system : mechanical, acoustical and electrical....All the marketing audio industry mostly does not say that, they must sell their carefully researched products and tweaking is only a small "niche" products that you added at the end of your endeavour...
The truth is inverse of that, tweaks and preparation must be first, and my rule is : any electronic components that is already good will takes cares of his function without any needs for a so called upgrades necessity and will work at his peak potential only in a such rightly prepared triple embeddings... Then when some company affirm something about their electronic new marvels they are right, often their product is better than the one you owns already... But if you had never listen to what you already owned in the first place at his peak potential quality, because you had not installed your electronic components in a qualitatively carefully prepared embeddings, what is the need to upgrade a product which you dont really know ?
All electronic components are on a 3 level of quality/price ratio.... Low, mid, high....Any upgrading changes in the same rung of the scale is a waste of money and not necessary, and will be deceiving in giving to you only a small improvement at best.... The triple preparations of the embeddings will gives you hi-fi, even sometimes with some low components in the scale, more with the mid elements of the scale, and you will think: is it absolutely necessary that I pay now for high priced elements in the upper end of the scale ?
In my case I know that the Berning Amplifier will be better than my Sansui, but I do not feel the urge to change that... A happy end indeed, because I dont have the money to go with the dreamed high priced product...I feel no more frustration...Music is music at the end if you listen to it really trough an already good sound...
My best...
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I think that the sandwiches I use+ some load on my speakers makes precisely that a relative damping with a relative isolation and a kind of passive filtration with different structural densities materials... Not perfect at all in any way, but very clear improvement, and if this phase shifting is there I dont hear it...My best to you Taras and thanks for your participation... |
Remember that I am not a scientist, I applied some imagination and very rudimentary knowledge to the problems with the judgement of my hearing... At the end my sound quality relatively to my ears is increasing big way, what much can I do? I even listen to some like you for better understanding...
By the way sometimes you are right I even try to throw the kitchen sink at the problem... Like with my many different kind of resonators, but at the end without being perfect or optimal, my solutions worked... :)
Perfect solution is for science, imperfect but working homemade one for the pleasure of my ears...And sometimes I cannot wait for science to improve my sound quality.... :)
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The ideal would be something that combined isolation and critical damping, eh.( Btw damping is most often not your friend, unless you are a big fan of phase shift strongly related to the applied damping material/system ).
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