UPDATE: "doubly connected cone bells grids"
I added a copper tape ribbon to the first one linking the 5 crystals cannon in each grid the horizontal and the vertical one...More realism and more presence and more details, more dynamic...I will post a new photo in the next day in my "virtual system" page...
After the "golden plates", the modified Schumann generators, the connected crystals cannons, the cones bells grids, the bells of bells, the stones grid, the multiple resonators, the Helmholtz bottles, my delirium touch the end of my journey I think....
How far can we go with a better sound without changing an electronic component?
I never imagine that my dac, amp, and speakers would sound so good ever in my life when I bought them....I was dreaming to upgrade them few weeks after buying them because all forums and thread says the same thing like a chorus, the costly it gets the better it is.... This is more than false, it is a myth created by advertising and ignorance about the three embeddings necessities in any audio serious endeavour....For sure my system does not sound like a million bucks system, but for the price Boy! not so far behind, and way more closer than you think.... And I know that my photos look like trash..... :)
My goal is in my own hands and I touch it.... Homemade low cost methods are all that is necessary to afford Hi-Fi....
My best to all....
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UPDATE: "connected cones bells grids"
The increased details made me connecting them all with the copper tape....The clarity increase....
No explanation comes to my mind.... A sound wave affected by connected brass cones? Why?
Never mind physics !.....Viva music! .... But if someone has the beginning of an idea he is welcome …. :)
I will repeat the only idea I have and this is a metaphor :
These connected "grids of cones bells"
work like some beacons on the flowing waves resulting from the interaction of the direct sound from the speakers and the refracted sound coming from the walls, and give to the ears some set of fixed points to make easier his Fourier analysis of the sound …
One thing is evident: All instruments are way more distinctive in the Bach brandebourgeois concertos....And it is not my first listening session with this file to say the least....
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UPDATE: "connected cones bells grids"
I added my computer screen with his 2 grids of cones bells on each side to the connected series of grids in my room....
Same upgrading clarity effect....
WOW !
The mystery is astonishing indeed... Why thin copper tape around cones bells can produce this powerful clarification of the imaging in the first place? Particularly spectacular in nearfield listening but also in regular position...
This event is a surprize at the moment I was thinking that my audio experiments journey was ending..... :)
Dear reader remember this: the acoustical embeddings is the most important fact in audio.....Most of us dont know that...
The proof is simple.... For example, I know very well that some cables sound very different with one another....But the difference is minute compared to any changing controls in the 3 embeddings.... I then conclude with all these discussions about cables that people dont know much in Audio improvement at all because their fixation in favor or against changing cables is an indication of their own limitations....The rightful embeddings exceed any changes of cables, or often even of gear....And the acoustical embeddings is so powerful that it is only on par with the exchange of a low piece of gear to a very refine one....Nothing less....
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An important note about my last experiments:
The reader must remember that my audio system is very sensible to changes because it is already heavily and rightfully embedded to some degree... Then the audible effects I described will vary from one audio system to another.... But the reader must begins by the simplest embeddings: the mechanical resonance controls.... After that he can try the electrical house controls embeddings step by step and the acoustical one....
The acoustical embeddings is the more complex for me, because there is a passive way, the classical way to use materials to absorb or reflect the sound, but the active way are more powerful( Helmholtz bottles, modified Schumann Generators, various resonators, bell of bells, grid of connected bell cones of different size, stones and crystals) and also necessary to transform ANY room....For the electrical embeddings controls I use mostly stones and crystals and my 30 marvellous "golden plate" around all electrical utility, be it a router, a wall plug, or a conditioner, the computer, the phone box, the electrical panels etc....
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Updates: "cones bells connected grids"...
The last tweak is the connection with thin copper tape of the 2 series of 9 cones bells (9 with 3 Herkimer diamond inside) each side of my computer screen that is exactly between my speakers (2 inches in front of them)...The connection make the cones bells more powerful in clarity S.Q. in regular distance and in nearfield more immersive....
The same effects were audible with the 11 vertical connected cone bells horizontally aligned on the wall a few feets over my left speakers, and with the 13 connected cones bells vertically aligned a few inches near the right speaker on the wall adjacent....Herkimer diamond inside 1/3 of them and in some case red tourmaline under the H.D.
I had another grids at my right on the shelves of some furniture and on the wall behind me.... But these grids instantiate a lesser audible effects....
This cones bells connected grids on par with the 10 Schumann generator and with the 20 Helmholtz bottles to ACTIVELY modify the acoustics and even better than my 50 cheap resonators...But remember that any upgrading effects of my controls tweaks are cumulative....If someone try something in a nude dead room the effect can be less powerful, because ALL my audio grid is now very able to communicate any slight modification... My 3 embeddings were already advanced in modification controls already in my room before the connected cones bells grids...But the connected cones bells are so astonishing I must use superlatives....
Most people think that for changing acoustic we must buy costly PASSIVE materials.... This is half truth, especially in small non- symmetrical room.... In this kind of room ACTIVE controls methods are mandatory....Buy nothing, think before, and use low cost materials and first and foremost your EARS.....Your ears will teach you, trust them, nobody else....
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Adding new stones
Over the Sansui AU 7700 Amplifier transformer I already have many stones: tourmaline pieces, amethysts, agate... I put a very little "golden plate" (because a bigger one can kill the sound then beware) and with it I added 150 micro Herkimer diamonds.... That gives me more depth in the imaging and a better natural timbre.... :)
Herkimer diamonds and shungite in the "golden plate" are the most useful stones for audio, over tourmaline, agate, quartz, and all others I used too...
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Where Kambaba jasper can makes things sometimes better....
I put a 200 gram sphere on top of my Sansui with the 150 micro H.D. and the very small "golden plate"... Before I tried an agate that gives me more meat in the sound, but I want more details then I replace agate with a Black tourmaline big chunk with success...After a while I tried my Jasper Kambaba sphere and Bang! the imaging and bass frequencies were better with keeping details and air around the sound given to me by the H.D....
This an example of experimental listening ending in a success.... :)
Cost: peanuts....
Goal: tweaking the sound toward the superior potential level......
Results: more beautiful music with great fun experimenting with the master’s ears.... :)
Nota Bene:
Kambaba jasper is known by me for the last 5 years, this stone improve the frequencies perception like tourmaline for example but with a potent working on the imaging perception more than on the timbre perception only, like tourmaline....
Some people reading my many posts here can think that I go forward and backward alternatively with the sound quality without knowing too much what I do...This will be wrong, I know what I do after all those years of experiments and past some experiments where some trade-off are mandatory, the general trend is a cumulative positive progression in S.Q. for at least the last 2 years in a very audible way, each stones complementing some other one....I know the working of 20 stones at least and play with them very well in various way toward the optimal way....
Then this last experiment help me to finetune my amplifier, already tweaked with stones.....This was a success....These methods are so efficient and subtle then I learn and discover each week.....Finetuning is a process not a single experiment....
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Most of the times people dont go in a finetuning process, and dont know how in the first place...
They upgrade after a long or short time moving the problem around half the time.... Upgrading is sometimes for the better for sure but when someone dont know how to optimize the S.Q. by his own means, often they forget about the sound and lives with the music and it is ok for sure....
But it is way more fun to improve, month after months, and at the end music comes from our own hands more than from a purchase that is often as illusory than it was good at first listen....So good they are any electronic component need to be rightfully embedded and no designer will like to say frankly to his customer : " you know my product is perfect but to listen to his optimal quality you must learn now how to embed it in your house"....Who would buy it thousand dollars, only to know that right out of the box the product is not at his better level of working order ? :)
The other reason is after all the electronic designer of an amplifier or a dac or of the speakers are not acoustician, physicist or electrician, and dont live in your particular house and room....They are interested in designing not in the embedding so much....Design is an idealized standardization process, acoustic of someone room is more an individualized subtle embedding process, not reducible to standardization....
After the acoustic the same is true for the particular electrical grid of your house and for the general mechanical resonance controls problem...Any electronic component vibrate and affect the other E.C. and all the audio system is affected by the vibrations in his neighborhood... These are the 3 embeddings problems to solve.....The more important fact in audio.... It is simple but nobody on any forums explained it clearly to me and I read thousand of hours to understand.....I want to be clear myself and dissipate the upgrading myths.....
For sure many reviewers speak about some products dedicated to one of these 3 embeddings times to times...They called that a tweak....But this is a long way to understand the 3 embeddings problems, in fact no one can solve that problem with a tweak or even with a few tweaks....We must be systematic....No reviewers would be invited to speak about something at all if they dared to say the truth: the embeddings of your audio system are way more impactful in your experience of Hi-Fi than the upgrading purchase of only one electronic component in general most of the times (speakers, amp or dac).... This is the upgrading myth.... :)
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UPDATE Kambaba jasper
Wow!
I am lucky to had bought 4 spheres at a times where they were much cheaper.... Their effect is stronger in my controlled embedded audio system especially on top of my Sansui amplifier....This kind of jasper increase the imaging from my first use of them but now more audibly, i dont know why at all.... :)
i will give to you an example of use, the golden plate will give more meat to the sound but will slightly compress it, add kambaba jasper and you will keep the meat but you will erase the compression and reinforce the imaging....It is an example of complementary use of stones.... At the end with many kind of stones you keep only the positive.... This is really like an upgrade.... And better because of the low cost and sometimes it is more powerful than an upgrade because you can work all aspect of sound.......
I will never use a tube amplifier anymore.... when i hhave one i try plenty of tubes, with subtle changing colors in sound each time but that was very small and limited effects compared to my stones tweaking without speaking even of the controls of the 3 embeddings....
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Although not a tweak per se, the ADD-Powr approach to extracting improvements to audio is nothing short of a "miracle."
Power system "tuning", "harmonizing" are areas that have been largely ignored.
May I suggest, that all of the products are worthy of serious consideration to audition. With a 30 day money back guarantee, you have nothing to lose.
The ElectraClear or Symphony are good products for first timers. |
Thanks for your report bemused.
But i prefer homemade low cost solution for me for now.... Others can be interested tough.... My "golden plates" controls noise level all along my house electrical grid for low cost....
An important point also to keep in mind: ANY electronic component that "harmonize" or "tune" the electrical grid of the house will, in spite of his good "harmonizing" work, introduce, by way of his electronic active working components, a noise of his own to the encompassing noise floor of the electrical grid of the house.... Then even if the results are positive and very good there is a trade-off that will be introduced in the grid management....My own "golden plates" are passive materials only ,without electronical components, and then are able to reduce the noise level without a trade-off in the noise management.... :) |
UPDATE Herkimer diamonds:
I add athird little pack of H.D. to the 2 i already has added on top of of my Sansui amplifier transformer with the same positive results ....
After my "golden plates" Shungite+copper, the H.D. are the best minerals that create miracles in audio..... Tourmaline, kambaba jasper and agate and many others after that....
Remember that my herkimer diamonds were always used in complementratiry with other stones (shungite in the golden plate, or agate, or tourmaline mainly) to equilibrate and compensate the effects....It is in some way a tuning works....
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UPDATE "golden plate"
I add a small golden plate with grade one shungite elite piece on the cable that go from the optical converter to my dac...
Great increase in clarity....
I add 3 little piece of elite shungite to the power cord where my computer is connected, same results...
lesson: Any spot upstream of your audio system need some stones or "golden plate"...
If the results is a little compression of the sound replace it by herkimer diamond or add some herkimer diamond to the golden plate.... |
I will repeat something important for the very few that read this audio diary....
In these last 2 years my system upgrade by implementing these 3 embeddings protocols are on his final way...
I dont think that i will discover another level, like the level i was going through in the last 3 months...
There is a limit with any specific audio system, when is potential is reached by rightfully controlling the 3 embeddings... I am here now, at least it is what i think.... Incremental small improvement are always possible for sure, i was thinking that my system was finished and my goal reached 3 months ago and i was in complete error.... :)
But if in my next future posts i speak about an improvement, it will not be so shattering that those in the past....
Except if i create something like the "golden plates" or the cone bells acoustical grids... Who knows?
The goal is already in your own hands if you cannot change any cd or files you are listening to, because the music is too beautiful to be interrupted, whatever the recording engineering quality was, good or less good.... This is the sign....Nothing else....Music reign supreme now over sound quality.... :) |
UPDATE about the connected stones grid:
I re-made some connection that were no more so much well connected in my stones grid and gain a better imaging after....
Conclusion i will use other materials than instant Tac adhesive when i will recreate all my audio systen in another room in the months or years to come in a new house.... :)
Remember that the idea of the connected stones grid comes to me one bit at a times on a 4 years period.... I improvise with cheap materials.... No one were silly so much to guide me with that idea at all.... Nobody i know never connected stones with cables and battery in parallells to an audio system and all across a room with Schumann generators... Some glimpse of the idea i pick in Bybee costly tweaks....Mine work marvel for peanuts tough....
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UpDATE Herkimer diamonds...
Never put a golden plate near an amplifier...Some stones worlk miraculously good upstream an audio system, not so much on an amplifier ou near it.... Try on the cables not on the amplifier.... The sound will be too compressed...
But many other stones has good effects on the noise....Tourmaline, Kambba jasper, agate... But Herkimer diamonds are very powerful to clean the sound...
I now has added 5 little bags in all, 2 new today.... The effect is there increasing the clarity and imaging...
Viva Herkimer dimamond.... |
i just post this short explanation on an other thread about audiophiles...I guess i am one..... :)
« I always liked to play the same files i like the most....But i also use some files to rightfully assess the state of my audio system....My controls embeddings methods are complex and with my listening i can detect if there is some defects, or something amiss among all the hundreds of modifications implemented .... It is impossible to verify all of them one by one each day..... :)»
I just realized where i was on the scale of madmess....But trust me with these hundred of modifications my audio system is good and best than most think.... :)
Viva madness!
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UPDATE Herkimer diamonds.
I now added 300 hundred micro or small H.D. in 6 little bags on top of my Sansui transformer amplifier with some other stones that were already there for 2 years : Black Tourmaline, Jasper of kambaba, Madagascar banded agate....
The results are very good with an expanded imaging and clarity...The total cost of all H.D. are around 50 dollars...
People paying one thousand dollars for a cable that gives that will be pleased, imagine how i feel ?
:)
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A remark for the not so awaken ears and mind:
Some will be tempted to attribute all my post to delusion and placebo effects...
Just a word to say that no PLACEBOS can accumulate positive effects on a 2 years period, incrementally, each times...
I am not deluded, if i am wrong like some think, i am totally hallucinating.... :)
My grid of stones for example, is only small positive rendering of the frequencies, one connection and one stone at each time.... The addition is at the end a great change....
But i introduce many new concepts after this grid of stones.... And i think myself at some time that some are more powerful, but when a connection has failed to work by relaxing itself from the stones, i hears the differencewhen i reinstated the connector cable to the stone the small increase is evident.... Trust me all increase in S.Q. are important even the small one...
No advice, nor upgrade, can replace our listening experiments.... Nothing can....because the listening experiments are the roots of creation in this audio hobby...
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My new Homemade creation:
The "TWIN FANS COMBING SOUND" Room enhancer...
Imagine the sound in your room is like a pony tail of all hair behind the head...
Imagine you detach the pony tail, and that you comb the hairs...
I put 2 fans (the plastic one that you can play with, adjusting the height in summer with 3 or 4 blades) i put these 2 fans in front of the speakers at the same height than my tweeter.... I put (very important) a 3/4 inches Herkimer Diamond in the center of each cage enclosure....
Results: soundstage more open but especially better high frequencies and better imaging, better perception of all harmonics....
Incredible reverse engineering at virtually peanuts costs... (2 unused fans of 20 bucks each).
The audible effect is there ar regular distance 7 feet or in near listening 3 1/2 feet....
Enhance the room and the higher frequencies perception very much....
What can i say?
I got my idea reading about a wodden thing that cost 1,500 dollars....
Reverse engineering it with metal fan enclosure with an H. D. in the center to erase some resonance.....
Marvellous...
Basic Hi-Fi cost peanuts..... Use your ears more and less your eyes.....And the brain between the two....
Dont listen the so called self appointed scientist, and do not listen marketers, try yourself.... Experimenting is fun and rewarding....
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I forgot to mention a better perception of the timbre and more natural one with an increased imaging really.......
This " Twin fan combing sound" is on par with my "golden plate" creation....
Viva Herkimer diamond !
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UPDATE:
"TWIN FANS combing sound room enhancer"
My last idea was to add a third fan near my right speakers, the enclosure at the level of the tweeter and bass driver... ( with an herkimer diamond stick in the center of the enclosure)
Wow a better mid bass and bass this times....But the improvement is at all frequencies like with the 2 first fans with more in the highs for the 2 first one and in the bass with the third one.... No degradation on all counts with the H.D. in the center of the enclosures...
These 3 fans are my best ideas with the "golden plates" and with many others , each controls tweaks add something, but some are near miraculous...
These fans are astounding controls means for no cost or almost...
My inspiration comes from the Shakti hallograph, a kind of wooden 3 wood rays trident that we must put behind the speakers...My fans work in front of the speakers against the opposite wall, metal enclosure at the height of the drivers.... :)
I dont have the 1000 US dollars for that Shakti thing.... But i have 3 unused fans with metal circled enclosure that surely will finely ethereally COMB also the sound of the speakers like a comb will comb the ethereal hair of a beautiful woman....
Conclusion: i even doubt that the Hallograph will do best than my fans.... So good they are.....
:)
« Madness is the problem yes, but madness is the cure» -Groucho Marx |
UPDATE
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
I put the plumber caps 3/4 inches in the center of the fans and glued the mini stick herkimer diamond in them instead of gluing them directly in the center of the fans...
Great results strenghtening the mids frequencies and imaging without any loss on all other frequencies...
The twin fans (i use 3 in fact in my room) are ridiculous cost like any of my homemade controls means and gives me astonishing results....
Use your ears and you will save much money.... :) Alas! people are most of the times more confident in the price of the gear than on their own ears....For me only my ears judgment count, and all my homemade device controls cost peanuts....
My goal was and is always to create Hi-Fi experience for the poors.... The only solution is a rightful triple embeddings of the gear.....
Never go with the crowds, especially in audio matters.....
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Where is geoffkait?
Is he in good health?
He was one of the few visitors here....
He was nowhere to be heard of for the last 3 weeks...
I hope all is right for him.... With this pandemic....
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Update
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
The addition of these 3 brass plumbers caps on the plastic center round plate of the fans where i put the herkimer diamonds sticks has an incredible effect...
My invisible and silent readers, please think now about WHY only 3 pieces of 3/4 inch plumber brass cap (some kind of large cone bells) can produce so powerful sound correction?
These are part of my homemade active acoustical embeddings controls saga.... |
Hey magister!
Wanted to report that I just took my first dive into the placebo pool with some very “quieting” hunks of Shungite
This stuff is very weird. Kind of tingly when I hold several pieces in my hands.
Is this stuff completely benign for humans?
It sure does deepen the black levels on both audio and video. |
Hey magister!
Wanted to report that I just took my first dive into the placebo pool with some very “quieting” hunks of Shungite
This stuff is very weird. Kind of tingly when I hold several pieces in my hands.
Is this stuff completely benign for humans?
It sure does deepen the black levels on both audio and video. First "placebos" is not an explanation for increase positive effects step by step experiments resulting in many positive S.Q. for 2 years... When a pills increase his effects with time and dosage, it is no more a placebo... Second read about shungite for his non negative effect on health... Third for an improved effect in audio put some copper tape on one side of the shungite plate, i call that " a golden plate" and put it near , power supply, or the electrical central panel, or anywhere in upstream of the audio system but NOT near the dac,or the amplifier....( the copper side always external) You can try it behind the speakers electronics or cables....There will be a lowering of the noise floor that i cannot explain at low cost.... I am in the business to give to myself and others that dont have the money the Hi-Fi experience, mainly with homemade low cost methods that improve the mechanical (resonance-vibrations) embeddings of an audio system, the electrical embeddings by lowering the noise floor of the house, and the acoustical atmosphere of a room not only with passive materials but with active methods...All my ideas are free to use and experiment with.... Even if my system look like a joke, it is not one. trust me....I dont need to upgrade it at all, then at least he is good.... Most people dont know how to embed their audio system and know only one way to create a better S.Q. : very costly upgrading.... I know better and i want to give that advice to all: embedding an audio system is the KEY to a great S. Q. Never upgrade BEFORE embedding what you already owns.....Then you will listen to the true potential of what you already have in hands BEFORE changing it at higher cost, half of the times with no more complete satisfaction.... My best to you.... |
Correction error:
On the " twins fans" my brass cap plumbers are 1/4 inch not 3/4 inch.... Sorry... |
UPDATE
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
I just add some other brass plumber caps to the one of the center of each 3 fans...One caps had a bigger herkimer diamond stick in it than the other.... I just tape a band of thin copper sheet around the 2 caps and that on the 3 fans...
Guess what?
Yes a better S.Q. on all count...
My twin fans enchancer room controls are now complete.... resounding success... So much that i cannot imagine that the wood room enhancer that inspire my totally different enhancer is even better....
Hi-Fi for the poors is possible indeed.....
Someone can explain to me how a copper tape of few inches wrapped around 2 caps on the center of a fan enclosure can be so powerful for the acoustic of the room?
People dont wait any explanation to be creative.... And dont trust the negative naysayers, trust your ears....At the end of times all will be explained....
« We are here to love not to know»- Anonymus soul |
We dont know all the music we miss before the rightful embeddings process ends...
Upgrading urge is most of the times only a result of this ignorance and powerlessness in our own audio journey.... |
My last controls installation for the last month gives me something new and never experienced by me before....
Really the listening position at regular distance (8 feet and few inches) my lazy-boy chair extended and my ears at equal height with my tweeters, is on par with the nearfield position (3 feet)...
A bit more detailed in nearfield, but more pulsating in regular position, i listen to incredible bass for a 7 inches driver.... My room is so tightly controlled after these 2 years of mutiple listening experiments than i enjoy bass that i feel with my body.... Mission cyrus 781 speakers was very well known for their good bass and it is true....( No the walls dont vibrate but i dont need that to listen to cello or even organ )
If the 3 embeddings are Key of audio experience, the acoustic embedding is the more spectacular one.... People upgrade without knowing that at all....
A "reviewer" even say to me not long ago that acoustic controls importance are exagerated ! Think about that and think why he said so.... Because he was blinded by top of the line costly electronics, and never feel any lack in his own room... But someone who has never explore acoustic controls has no way to imagine what he lost by not doing so.... Believe me acoustic is the more important part of audio....Especially when your system is low cost.... People with high cost system feel that they are there in the top spot, without knowing better.... It is an illusion, electronic design matter, but much less than acoustic.... |
UPDATE
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
For few days now i listen to my room in nearfield and regular position, with 2 fans beside (2feet) each speakers, and 2 other fans firectly in front of them each side of my listening chair 8 feet from them...
Each 4 fans are modified with a cone bell or 2 in the center with a small and also a bigger herkimer diamond in the center of the metal plate enclosure...
Boy! for the price paid( i already owned them for the summer and for years) the acoustic is now , at last, to my absolute liking....
I liked it before, but the nearfield position was my best... Now the 2 positions being slightly different are never mind on par ....
For peanuts ANYBODY can transform his room, i prove it here....Be creative, dont listen to anybody except your ears...
You will know when you would reach the top of the mountain because it is no more possible to stop any music .....
Enjoy the sound, listen to the music we need it in this darkest hour....
My best to all....
I cannot imagine now how i will improve that except by upgrading .... But i dont have the money and frankly it is no more a need born of frustation...
I am happy like never, my dream of Hi-Fi comes true....
I am proud of myself....
I wish to all the same fun i had.... Thanks for reading my rants.... |
update:
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
I replace the big Herkimer Diamond 334 inch stck with nano one in the plumbers cone bell cap in the center of the enclosure of the fans...
I just recived some by the mail... :)
Small H. D. are more powerful than the big one for sound.... Better higer frequencies resonance....
my best....
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Update
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
In audio listening experiments are the ONLY way....
I made a mistake replacing the 2 little herkimer diamonds stick on the 2 fans in front of the speakers by some nano one...
The little one seems to gives more details but the sound is less well textured in de mid frequencies...There is no more details with them, it is an illusion... Then i replace by the 2 H.D. sticks... Immediate relief the sound very well textured in the mids frequencies the most... No lost anywhere...Evident comparison with the same files with bass piano and xylophone...(Renee Rosnes trio "beloved of the sky")
That was the good initial formula....
Question to all :
Why the replacement of 2 nano H.D. by 2 sticks 3/4 inch makes a so great audible impact in a room?
Dont work too hard to answer....
The professional passive negative one will have already their unique answer ready: placebo...
The more serious one probably dont have any answer, even the acoustical engineer.... If not, i want to hear one answer about that....
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mahgister,
i just read through most of this thread. Quite the Journey. I am a fan of maximizing what you have. I have replaced many of the internal components within my audio gear with better quality and found the results to be worthwhile. I may try some of these tweaks as well.
Mostly I just wanted to say one of my goals in life is to be a consummate gentleman- a goal you have clearly already reached. Thanks for being a benchmark for the rest of us.
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Thanks for your toughtful kindness and words...
I only try with very low cost means if it is possible to experience a more than only good S.Q.
It is possible, and i want to communicate this possibility...
but everyone will develop it for himself with his own imagination...
Only one law will stay:
Dont upgrade anyything before embedding everything rightfully...
Audio S.Q. is not only caused by good improved electronic design, it is easy to buy some good electronic design; Audio S.Q. comes from a rightful methodical experiments in the 3 embeddings of any audio system...
My best to you..... |
Update :
The " Bell of bells"...
It is in the center of my room ,dangling stable from the ceiling at the center of the room...
It is a bell, 2 inches diameter , around it 2 layers of cones bell (fishing alaskan cones) in which i have glued some herkimer diamonds... But i put only half of them with H.D. i was lacking diamonds at the times and it is working well like that....
Now i put H.D. in all of the cones bells...
Audible effect in near listening and regular position, good on all counts...Better imaging mainly and better dynamic....
Wow...
i was just thinking that there is no more i could do....
But my last order of herkimer diamonds just arrived, perhaps300 .... :) At peanuts costs....I must keep it a secret but shungite and herkimer diamond are very powerful tools for me , the others rocks, minerals or crystals, were useful, but these 2 break the bank when you know how to use them....
My best to all....
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The readers of this thread must be conscious that the S.Q. increase i speak about in these posts of mine, were win one inch at a time, and despite my hyperboles and exclamations, it was really one inch at a times...
Then it is the sum of all my controls experiments, in the electrical grid and in the acoustical embeddings, that gives to me the results of the last day....
There is no ready made tweak someone can buy adressing all problems in the 3 embeddings and solving them all...
There is none of my device or ideas that cando the same miraculous feat and solve all problem...
But boy! it was fun and it is fun to listen, create, and increase the S.Q.
I will repeatmyself, a great audiophile experience does not need to cost big money at all, it is a myth, and a reluctant, inadvertant, accidental lie by some.... Thats all.... |
Update:
My " Bell of bells"
is a marvellous acoustical device for a room and works marvel for me.... Cost : to low to be describe.....30 bucks in all perhaps...
The bill Charlap trios that i discover last week sound more natural and the imaging i thanks to be very good to date was lacking, because now it is wonderful more than a bit more...
WE NEVER KNOW WHAT WE LACK UNTIL WE GRAB IT FIRST.....
This must be a LAW in audio hobby....
on par with this first law:
Dont upgrade anything before embedding everything rightfully....
Before making too much other laws i will go back to music, because everything is new again....
Another law:
When all is new again, it is a new step, but probably not the last one....
:)
I quit now, my best.....
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Update
"Twin fans combing sound room enhancer"
My friends audio experiments are very instructive, and sometimes amazing, bordering to the incredible...
In a room where many active controls device are already in place, for example in mine, many "grids of cones bells", the "bell of bells", Schumann generators grid, helmholtz bottles, etc In this kind of room 2 simple bands of copper tape 8 inches each long, wrapped around the cone bells grid in the center of the fans enclosure (12 cones 2 big and 10 small one all with herkimer diamonds in center) will make an enormous difference....
I wrapped the copper tape in first experiment, around all the cones grid in the center enclosure of each fan including the 2 big cones....
In a second experiments i only wrapped around the little 10 cones without including the 2 big one....
Results: the second experiments gives a better results but the difference that two 8 inches long wrapping tape around some cones can produce if wrapped around some cones and not around some others are staggering....
ACOUSTIC dictate the ultimate S.Q. more than electronic design in most cases.....
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I think the waves of direct sound and refracted sound in a room are an extension of the ears/brain, the waves of sound in the room are like an extension of the ears sensing organs and linked to the working creative interpretation of the music by the brain...( the imaging of the music scenery for example is a reconstruction by the brain linked to the" perceived" acoustical room like in echolocation )
The cones bells grids wrapped with copper tape on my wall, on the fans enclosures centers, on my speakers, on my computers screens, are like passive and stable beacons and tags located all along the fixed banks of a flowing river ( with different waves of sound conflicting with each others)... The ears/brain use these beacons to recreate the music image that is flowing with the waves...
But for sure the cones bells of different size are also tiny resonators, like the herkimer diamond (H.D. ) in their center, and their diameter, their composition materials, even the dimension of the H. D. all that play also a big role and they change the relation between direct sound wave and refracted sound waves .... They are not only passive beacons then, but also active players in the acoustical field....
I am not a scientist this is just metaphors to convey my experience....
:)
One thing is for sure, acoustics is not a simpler science than electronic design science at all.... |
You dont know how fantastic your audio system really is...
I was like that....
It takes me the last 2 years to know that...
Most will read that like if was boasting about my system.... Not at all...
My system is low or mid-fi at most, very well chosen but not High End ...
I dont want to boast about brand names, for me it is illusory, there exist many, many good brand, with their weaker points and stronger one...
The question is: HOW DO YOU HAVE EMBEDDED IT ?
Think about that, especially newcomers, not brainwashed by the upgrading motto.....
I am really happy....I wish the same for all.....
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My new active controls method for room acoustic
is a continuation of my "twin fans combing sound room enhancer"....
I will not speak in details about it for the moment....
Many new readers will think i am crazy, after many past readers think that already anyway...
I will describe it later for sure, i dont fear other’s opinion....
But even for me it is difficult to imagine that change and how it works....
If so, acoustic is not what acousticians think it is, It is way more than they think....
One thing is sure my adio system increase in S.Q. another notch today...
It is very easy to verify for me, it takes almost a minute of listening.... I verified after this first amazing minute for many hours with many files i know perfectly well and files which i know how they are supposed to sound in my room....
i am amazed ....
Acoustic active devices are almost half of my S. Q. now...
The rest is passive treatment of the room, + the 2 other embeddings...
I will post photos in the near future to describe my "twin fans" modifications....
I am too old to start a career in acoustical audio.... :)
Alas!
But i can treat myself at least.....
Enjoy music....
«Life is shorter than the long dying breath of a dragon .»-Groucho Marx
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UPDATE:
My new active controls method for room acoustic
is a continuation of my "twin fans combing sound room enhancer"....
I am not a scientist at all....
Only an ordinary guy who listen carefully with "ordinary" hearing capacity for my age , but with learned hearing abilities over the mean population, being a lover of music and an audiophile for the last 7 years, and consciously so for the last 2 years....
My last experiment is so successful that i discover truly amazing facts...
In a word, i connect with very thin phone cable the 2 twin fans, with their cones grids of 2 different size on the enclosure with Herkimer diamond at their center...
After connecting the 2 twin fans and the 2 size of cones bells on them with cables, i connected the 2 twins fans cones bells grids to 2 Schumann generators, themselves connected all around my room to the other 8 one....
The upgrading S.Q. was an increase of all factors and aspect of sound qualities...
I am flabbergasted indeed...
Now what this means?
This means that PASSIVE room acoustical controls has some limitations to correct the room , especially irregular and small room...
ACTIVE acousticals controls are revolutionary in S. Q. terms ...
The human ears not only read direct and indirect sound coming from the speakers and the room, but we can use some connected active resonators to help the ears/brain to free themselves from the limitations of the room itself...
The ears/brain not only PASSIVELY READ the room but can ACTIVELY TRANSLATE the limitations of the room and transmutating them in some other space totally....
Wow! i will repeat that:
The ears/brain not only PASSIVELY READ the room but can ACTIVELY TRANSLATE the limitations of the room and transmutating them in some other space totally....
This is my last discovery.....
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Want to report that adding a shungite brick above my mains panel and putting 5X7 tiles on my AC power distribution components (among the source component connectors) has lowered noise levels considerably. It is particularly noticeable on my TV, which shares AC distribution (through a cheap old Shunyata cable) with my source components. Enabled me to take all picture controls to off or neutral--especially black level, which is now excellent without additional boost.
Initially, I tried shungite tiles stacked between my DAC and my Apple TV. The sonic result was a great improvement in both sound and picture on youTube classical music sites with slight softening in the upper mids. I'm running all digital (Qobuz) and thought at first that I had solved the occasional digital hash problem for good. At Magister's suggestion, I moved the tiles to treat AC only and was able to regain detail without losing most of the smoothness that I was looking for.
Now experimenting with shungite pyramids upside-down under my CD player using pre-1982 pennies (95% copper) as feet under the pyramid peaks. Hard to tell what comes from the materials and what comes from having the unit up on points.
Ain't placebos great? (Easy Magister, I'm being sarcastic.)
Film at 11:00.
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Thanks for this almost "unique" confirmation of my experiments....
You must put a copper tape on the external side of the shungite plate to optimize his impact and works with less negative effects....
A pyramid of shungite is not very practical most of the times...( except for feet good idea!) I prefer plate...Thin one for connector and big one for the different locations all along the electrical grid....
I use "golden plates" all along my electrical grid with great success ( 30 plates perhaps)... I wait for 12 more in the next weeks...." 2 plates for example behind each speakers electronics and connectors)
I appreciate your feed back....
My deepest regards....
I apologize for my lack of patience with sarcasm.... :)
My only excuse is english is not my first language....Sometimes i miss some clues... :) |
Magister
Thanks.
I'm thinking on the whole concept of "placebos." Must do some reading to get into the mix of opinion/research.
Horrors! Can one become a "placebophile"? Hard to define something that, by definition, doesn't exist.
Happy listening! |
My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids
I was using very thin copper telephone cable and i connected my grid of stones and crystals, some grids of cones bells, the grid of Schumann generators, the " twin fans" to the central "Bell of Bells" dangling from my ceiling and in the middle of the room....
All is now connected, it was not the case before....
And wow! improved imaging and separation and especially better dynamic, all music are better....
I now had create for myself the proof that ACTIVE acoustics controls exceed the effective power of transformation of the S.Q. than the controls used for the 2 others embeddings, the mechanical, and the electrical...
Passive acoustical controls cannot be replaced by active one, but passive materials will never gives to the sound the living quality of real sound... A perfect accurate sound reproduction in a room is not synonymus with "living" holographic sound quality.... Passive controls work toward a more perfect sound, diverse connected active resonators work toward a more "living" sound... A greek theater for example enhance the sound and his ends was not to gives first more perfect sound but more living one....
Non connected resonators like my Helmholtz bottles or my singing chip metal resonators are passive resonators .... Cones bells with herkimer diamonds. connected to 10 Schuman generators are active one...
I hope this is clear for all...
I will go back to music..... |
Next experiments coming soon:
Springs for my speakers, keeping my sandwiches in place under the speakers, i will put the springs directly on the sandwiches and under the speakers, then i will be able to take off the 70 pounds of concrete that was damping the speakers... I think the springs will made them no more useful.... Springs will controls the resonance better....
And last but not least, 12 new "golden plates" for the electrical grid....
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UPDATE:
My ultimate Cable connections of all my grids
This connection between all these grids in fact confirm the separation of the music from the speakers... It is true in nearfield or at distant position...
This is marvellous and the cost of this is: Peanuts....
Hi-Fi cost way more less than i was thinking 7 years ago.... It is no more at least over 10,000 dollars, the final cost is PEANUTS...
Dont buy if not necessary and Think before buying..... |
