Mahgister, you are like a patchwork quilt. Costly is a relative term. There is top notch equipment out there that is not at all frivolous relatively speaking. Better equipment is always a possibility. However there are things you can do that will greatly increase the performance of a system, room design and treatment are great examples. Isolating a turntable correctly is another. "Market conditioning" is exactly what convinces lay audiophiles to spend money on garbage that does absolutely nothing and at times makes things worse.
The main problem is that many audiophiles really do not know how or care to evaluate equipment and changes correctly. They think that just listening is enough. The problem with this is that it is not and they are giving advise based on this extraordinary faulty method. If they stayed within their own world then fine. But instead they tell people to "trust your own ears." It's like someone trying to get in a Moto GP race whose never been on a motorcycle. All you have to do is trust your own instincts right? Try that snow skiing and you will keep falling up hill. All you have to do is listen and you become an expert in evaluating audio equipment?
You are lucky! I dissected you insane and completely sophistic post but i lost my page and i will not take the time to rewrite it... It is completely stupid... Comparing audio listener to racer of formula 1 !ย ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ And why not imposing to themย the legal obligationย to buyย aย "listener" license after a course in electronic market consumerism to teach themย what they must buy in the future instead of using this low graded and dangerousย and "faulty"ย sense called " hearing" anyway.... ย Are you a stand up comic? |
Of course you have to listen. ย The trick is knowing what to choose that you will listen to. ย
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Mahgister, you are like a patchwork quilt. Costly is a relative term. There is top notch equipment out there that is not at all frivolous relatively speaking. Better equipment is always a possibility. However there are things you can do that will greatly increase the performance of a system, room design and treatment are great examples. Isolating a turntable correctly is another. "Market conditioning" is exactly what convinces lay audiophiles to spend money on garbage that does absolutely nothing and at times makes things worse.ย
The main problem is that many audiophiles really do not know how or care to evaluate equipment and changes correctly. They think that just listening is enough. The problem with this is that it is not and they are giving advise based on this extraordinary faulty method. If they stayed within their own world then fine. But instead they tell people to "trust your own ears." It's like someone trying to get in a Moto GP race whose never been on a motorcycle. All you have to do is trust your own instincts right? Try that snow skiing and you will keep falling up hill. All you have to do is listen and you become an expert in evaluating audio equipment?ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย |
The only way to explain why so much people are convinced that the best way to obtain S.Q. is ONLY OR MAINLY moving toward costly upgrades is social conformity by market conditioning practice ... I was thinking exactly that 7 years ago, i was convinced that without costly gear no one can pretend to great musical sound quality.... And i was very angry and frustrated because i cannot afforded my dreamed gear at all.... It was in fact a great luck for me indeed... This frustration turn me on a mission to satisfy myself.... The rest of the story is in this "vuts" thread with all my experiments, sometimes crazy, sometimes less crazy and a few times very very good...Especially my use of dissymetric compression of springs boxes, my golden plates and my Mechanical Helmholtz equalizer.... The famous 1950 experiment of Solomon Asch explain evrything we must kmow about social conformity.... The link is here: https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html
All actors, engineers that work hard to create good products, the consumers that bought them, the reviewers that sells them all are of good faith, they are only convinced that the "shorter"line in Ash experiment is the "longest/" one, for the same reason, autocondinioning to conform to the general collective opinion.... S.Q. is linearly related to increasingly better electronic design, and linearly related to prices.... It is all wrong.... The way we seat a system in our room IS the main factor and the cost could be peanuts...I called that the controls over the 3 working dimensiuons of any audio system.... All reader already know my "song"...๐๐ The acoustic control overpower anything in the S.Q. increase.... Lesson learned by myself....But the father of acoustic Helmholtz already know that before the invention of modern audio.... He invent modern room control.... For sure being not an idiot i dont affirm that all speakers, dac, or amplifiers for example are equal in quality...I only affirm that pick 3 "relatively good" pieces ofย gear between these three elements, and embed them rightfully and compare the sameย 3 elements in the same non controllerd environment this time and it will be a night and day differences; almost impossible to erase this difference in S.Q.ย ย with an upgrade, with a second upgrade, or even a third upgrade.... You cannot avoid or replace the embeddings controls with a piece of gear or many pieces....Especially the acoustical one.... My best to all..... |
I just compared the same song of a singer on my 500 bucks system and in my controlled room with something 1/4 of a million or 1/2 millions bucks system...For sure it is not a direct comparison...but even if it is impossible to compare 2 audio system qualitywise if the comparison is at a distance, it is possible to compare one which is detailed and musical with one which is detailed BUT not musical and in which tonal timbre are unnatural and this even at distance like in this case because nevermind the distance the better of the 2 will stay better and the worst will stay worst EVEN if we listen to it through the better one.... It is enough for me anyway....i know that i will stay with my actual audio system ...
All those who think that audiophile sound come first from the gear design are in error.... The main factor are the 3 working embeddings dimensions, especially the acoustic.... If we think rationally about audio it is only common sense....But i never realized myself that simple truth till these days and will have never realize it if i had all the money to upgrade in a chase of the moon search for Hi-FI.... Acoustic control MAY and CAN cost nothing and it is the most singular powerful factor.... NO UPGRADE AT ANY COST can replace the room factor....OK i Am tired to repeat my mantra, those who will listen to it will benefit , the others will throw money never knowing where is the peak of the mountain....
i will summarize in this way this comparizon between the costly system and mine: A very detailed sound is good BUT details without a fluid natural softness and without a natural tonal timbre for the singer voice not only it is fatiguing but unbearable for me EVEN if i listend to it through my own system.... If i was in this room i will probably have an heart attack.... But incredibly many people consider this "sound" very good because even it is not musical at all it is like a microscope...But it is an illusion, a decetion, i own all these details already in my sound but integrated in a musically natural way.... It is like comparing the Worst S.S. with the best tubes amplifier....My impression is my system catch the same details than the pricey system but in a more musical flowing way but mark my word i dont denigrate this costly excellent system , IT IS THE ROOM and THE ELECTRICAL GRID of the owner which is not controlled that give a so bad soiund for my ears i know it not his gear.......... The problem of this costly system is not the gear quality, it is top, it is the embeddings probably the electrical and the acoustical one especially... I know nobody will believe my impression, i will not believe it myself if i was not listening to it right now.... My 500 bucks system will need NO upgrade in the future if it does not break....My goal is reached with this Helmholtz mechanical Eq.
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I can safely say that the controlled of the 3 embeddings of a system, especially the room control is more important than the price of ANY system....
My mechanical equalizer is my best device.....
I am done with the frantic search to create an Hi-Fi system for the poor....Its done....my system is absolutely not the best there is and i will never boast about it, but i am very proud of my devices controls at peanutrs cost and my discovery of the main importance of these embeddings controls thats all.... I will go mute....
My best to all......
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The goal is reached when your room acoustical paricularities, beingnow in controls, are no more an impediment to the sound original choices of the recording engineer with his microphones locations and choices in the original live event...
Your room is able to RECREATE in his own particular way the original acoustic atmosphere...
In the beginning of my testing and tuning my room i used piano, hapsichord timbre recording, after that brass and strings orchestra and choral pieces...
But the last tuning was made also with Kurt Weill - Die Dreigroschenoper with Lotte Lenya the version of 1958...
The mic choices in this recording and the way the voices are often coming completely "IN" my ears from right and left or from the back of my headย has revealed to me the accuracy of my final tuning of the mechanical equalizer with pin point imaging, in a large soundstage over the speakers, BUT MAINLY of a " listener envelopment" acoustical factor better than inย all my headphones or at least on par with them but always a better natural living sound...All that with natural timbre, because the original timbre "envelope" perception of the instrument is linked to a better balance in your actual room between all the acoustical cues generating, imaging, soundstage, listener envelopment, apparent source width, etc
I think i am done with acoustical controls now.....
I proved to myself my point about the importance of the controls over the three working embeddings dimensions in any audio systen: mechanical. electrical and acoustical...
Anybody could do better than me but at a much higher cost, at peanuts cost i doubt that someone could improve it a lot.... All my devices are peanut cost modified when bought like the S.G. grid or homemade like my "golden plates" or my mechanical equalizer...
Dont upgrade embed everything reightfully before....
A single straw can kill ot acoustically ressuscitate a room.... |
My last device in acoustic control:
THE HELMHOLTZ MECHANICAL EQUALIZER
If you own a room only for your audio system "mechanical equalization" is for me superior to electronical one in many aspects ....
Acoustic of irregular or difficult small normal room obey and react to sound in a different way than a theater, or than an ideally acoustically designed audio rrom... Geometry, topology and content matters.... The mechanical equalizer was a cheap way in money to design my own audio room without the need to reconstruct my room...Passive absorbing, reflecting, and diffusive materials, even well balanced are not enough sometimes...Especially in 13 feet, irregular, but square room with 2 windows and with a complex acoustic content.... We must accomodate the response of the room to the speakers not only the speakers to the room... The mechanical equalizer can do the 2 function at the same time without modifying the basic parameters of the speakers directly and according to the specific structure of the user...The different pressures new zones created by the equalizer itself are intermediary between the speakers responses and the room responses in the 2 directions, because the pipes grid begin with a few inches straws from the speakers and increase in lenght to 8 feet high, like observed an astute observer, oldhvymec ,the organ tuning pipe in a church...
We can call the Helmholtz mechanical equalizer, a "silent organ" indeed and i called it so indeed in my first post about it in my thread...
It seems that human ears react better to first wavefront of relatively "large" bandwith called a " voice timbre" in any room location not to a precise test frequency signal one after the others, like a microphone feeding it back to a correcting program for only one very narrow location in milllimeters...
Then i succeeded to correct my room with materials passive treatment but mainly with an Helmholtz "mechanical equalizer" calibrated by the the first wavefront of sound created by the specific timing of the frequencies of early and late reflections adding themselves to the direct waves from the speakers and coming also from the waves modified themselves by their near 80 crossings of the different zones pressure of my room each one second...
This mechanical equalizer is made, not of bottles like the original one, but of tubes and pipes, sometimes one inserted in an another thinner one, with a short or longer neck(various type of straws) which length i tuned with hearing and listening experiments... It takes me a week and perhaps 50 hours to tune the 23 tubes and pipes....Location is important... All refining parameters were dictated by sound like a piano tuner use his ears and are implemented by diagonal cuts in section of various diameter of straws inserted in one another....I used transparent tape to seal the mouth and i insert thinner straw in a new hole if necessary like in a telescopic stick...
I also use "the golden section ratio" in 3 set of 3 pipes among all the other singular 13 tubes and pipes... My longer tube is 8 feet long under my 81/2 feet ceiling.... Correcting these 9 pipes together was the more easy part , they were very impactful ...I also used 5 smaller pipes of various size near the tweeter of one speaker (3) and near the bass driver of the other speaker (2) to create a more audible first wavefront signal without changing the basic identical parameters of the speakers but only their response to the room but not their frequency response more their first wavefront timing response... It worked marvellously.... It was my adding modification of these 2 pieces few inches, near each speaker, the tweeter for one and the bass driver for the other, creating then asymmetrically 2 different front waves from the speakers, it was this modification which is my personal characterization and adaptation from the original Helmholtz mechanical equalizer before the invention of the speakers itself....
I say all that because Helmholtz was able to set a room without DSP better than DSP... WHY?
We forget that, and we called DSP a progress and it is one indeed for "precise" measurements of a tested frequency in relation with a "precise" location in millimeters...
BUT we forgot that human ears is used to hear not a frequency alone, but a wavefront constituted of many frequencies together, usually a human vocal timbre, and we forgot that a room must be tested for itself not from and for a precise location in millimeter mainly ... And a room is not a set of passive bouncing walls waiting for the tested emitted frequency anyway, but an enclosure for the human voice, and an heterogeneous set of variable presssure zones, with the tubes and pipes being some of them...
The mechanical equalizer work on all audible frequencies not only on bass like many think, and they work at same time from near listening location and regular location in the room...not from an ideal "imaging spot" that is never an ideal spot anyway, the ideal spot is not made only for "imaging" but also for the " listener envelopment" factor ....The belief that near listening shield us from the room problems is completely erroneous in "small" room...
DSP is and could be a marvellous tool, but those who think that he can replace human ears must wait that new learning neural algorithm implement it in an A.I. expert system... Soon it will be done.... But the cost will be high.... In few years tough we will use it...
For now my ears is the main tool and it is enough...
It is a good thing also to learn acoustic by ears not by equations mainly or only and applying them without thinking....Acoustic is a fluid flowing poetry and geometry for the ears, not first a computer program...
I am not a scientist at all.... All that is my experiences only and could be wrongly explained .... But here we describe our own experience and i tried....
Cost: peanuts, all is made from straws and discarded plumber and copper pipes and tubes in my basement....
Result: the best sound i ever listen to in a small stereo system with ALL my musical files... Sound fills the room with sometimes, relatively to the original mic recording, voices or instruments around me and even sometimes coming from the back of my head... Impossible to going back to my 7 headphones that i put in a drawer.....
Electronic design is the smaller half part of audiophile experience, the bigger half and most important part is ACOUSTIC.....
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Give me a week ....
ย I am tired ....๐
And i must think about the explanation... I am not an acoustician and my device work, cost nothing to do, but i must take my time to better understanding why....
I will take the mateย you was kindly offering me....
I settle for his name:ย "Helmholtz mechanicalย front wave timing equalizer " this describe perfectly what it does....
My deepestย respect and friendly wishes... |
You must share your latest discovery, Mon Ami.
A cold mate for you if you do.
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The problem with the ionizer is not for me the sound level which is very low ...
It is some harmful possible effect in the respiratory tract, the sinuses, by long expesition... Especially for sensible person...
For now instead of some little slight sinuses blockage this night i go on with them because i love them.... I will try to use them more sparsely only in deep lmusic listening... i like the audio effect too much.... ๐
ย It was a word of caution about them..... |
Do you prefer listening to music with the ionizers
"on" or "off?" The tradeoff is the enhanced effect
versus the slight internal noise they generate. The noise is very low and i forget it easily and the improving effect exceed it for me... Do you notice a difference in SQ when
you leave them running all the time EXCEPT for
the times you are listening attentively? Yes the difference is at the same times subtle and different from anything else and unmistakable...It is like the music in my near listening position were more definite and the atmosphere of the recording event is better reproduced...Same effect in my regular position but more spectacular in near listening...The effect is like the polish on a copper cup, this is the same cup but more clean now because polished well.... I open them "on" when i listen music and put them "off" if i dont listen... For 40 bucks for the 2 it is very great addition.... |
Do you prefer listening to music with the ionizers
"on" or "off?"ย The tradeoff is the enhanced effect
versus the slight internal noise they generate.
Do you notice a difference in SQ when
you leave them running all the time EXCEPT for
the times you are listening attentively? |
UPDATE on my ionizers grid.... I replaced the costly moskitoefree french device (i will spare it for waiting rooms in pandemic zones) by a low cost very efficient car ionizer , a second one, because my room is like the space volume of at least 3 cars... Complete audible success... Even if the french device did not ionize with the same internal mechanism than the more regular 20 bucks chinese device, the chinese device is very good, sturdy, in solid aluminum,low noise, but what it give in S.Q. increase indeedย compensate easily the slight borderline audible DB noise of his internal mechanism.... The one i bought are USB powered... It is more practical than battery powered because they work 12 hours a day in my listening room....I listen music a lot indeed....Even reading.... ๐ Here is the exact one i bought and the dealer was very efficient.... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001278990095.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.4b524c4dlOeQmk For 40 bucks these 2 are very good and i cannot listen music with them "off".... But if you suffer asthma or respiratory problems, beware, these are ionizer.... Inform yourself before buying... Another acoustical simple controls for me , and one i could use without modifying it.... But i have a crazyย idea about some addition to it....To be continued later... ๐๐๐๐ |
LAST UPDATE about all my 18 HELMHOLTZ PIPES and TUBES...
I added one straw for a neck to all my pipes and tubes even to the Helmholtz-Fibonacci room tuner sets....The identical length of the straw on all devices dont change the golden ratio between the pipes...
What i can say?
The relation between the volume of the bottle or of the pipes and tubes to the neck volume and diameter is the KEY....The equation said so.... But listening to the equation by experimenting is a true sckocking experience, the equation is no more dead signs on paper, but suddenly a living animal in the room.... This is the power of acoustic....
You must experiment in your own room...Myself i stumble on the right proportion...
No change of dac or amplifier can replace ACOUSTIC control ever and never in audible impact.... ๐ Save for a very bad gear upgrading to an higher level totally.....The acoustical embedding new control is powerful like that...
After this addition of one straw on all devices, eliminating past shorter neck on them, the results were so amazing....
When you listen to an entire orchestra of brass the timbre differences between, tubas, trumpets, trombones, and the french horns cannot lie....
Astounding, this Gabrielli music by the Empire brass ensemble, which i know by heart, was revealed for the first time in all hues and variation of the brass timbre of each instrument....
Orchestral music and the timbre of each instrument is the BEST test for an audio system....On a single instrument piano is....
I cannot exagerate the huge impact of this longer neck addition to my pipes and tubes used like Helmholtz bottles...
My room is now ACTIVATED, and it is no more to the speakers sound only boucing on the passive walls i listen to, but to a pressurized complex set of engines in synchronisation with the speakers...This is what i call the activation of the room, to make understand the enormous difference between a passive room/walls and an activated atmosphere in the room....
Material passive treatment is important, but active controls by Helmholtz principle exceed it in impact because it is with them that the room is fully activated, with the S.G. grid and the 2 ionizers....
This fact is so much underestimated that if we read acoustitian articles about small room controls, they rarely insist on their importance.... In fact they even dont mention it most of the times....
I guess i am more creative than even some pro..... I have all my time for sure, i no longer work..... ๐
Listening to music is for me life or death.....With no money to spend i just discovered the universal lies in audio about costly gear being the MAIN high-quality source of the experience.... It is completely false, embeddings controls are the key, especially the acoustical one....
I pity all those who spend money on costly dac and amplifier...... ๐๐๐
I best them with 18 straws.....Nobody will ever believe me, i dont believe it myself.....๐ค๐๐ค๐
Be creative, listen to your ears only, not to reviews or audio consumers....
My best to all.....
Remember that all my audible effects are tested in my 2 listening position, nearfield and regular in my room.... |
Second UPDATE about my 3 Helmholtz tubes and about my Helmholtz-Fibonacci room tuner....
I made some experiment with a few Helmholtz pipes and tubes... I add one directly in front of my speakers 3/4 inches diameter, 3feet 3 inches high....The bass in the room suddenly bloom more and i never enjoy so good bass ever... The room first node is around 43 hertz, my speakers dont go under 45 hertz, and i enjoy now more of the very clear 45 hertz and the upper bass frequencies...
Some miracle happen when i decided to glue a straw on the plastic sheet closing the mouth if this tube centering this straw on the toothpick hole made on it....WOW! It was like 2 helmholtz tubes glued together , the straw is on top of the pipe....
Better imaging and better clarity....
ONE STRAW can change completely the sound of a room.... Think about that.....
WHY?
Because the air in the room is a pressurized heteregeneous complex distribution of springs cells acting on the waves and the Helmholtz tubes are pressurized engines that are able to make the room an ACTIVE participant in the sound perception and no more a boucing sets of passive walls... The S.G. also and the ionizer modify the array of air molecules that act like springs for the waves.... Remember that the waves cross a small room near hundred times each second, in my case 80 times each second....Then the air is like strings of violin under compression...
Acousticians who sells acoustic materials sells you half of the solution only....The passive materials treatment...
The other half are less easy to install and organize like passive acoustic materials can be but they are what make the room an ACTIVATEDย part of the sound perception synchronized with the speakers : my grid of S.G. and especially the Helmholtz pipes and tubes gridย with the ionizers....
The room is now active like the speakers are for the creation of the sound experience....ANY small room on par with the speakers are the SOURCE of the sound experience....
Presenting the room like passive walls to be treated is NOT acoustic science it is marketing of easy to install ready made solutions for the acoustic company....
It is my conclusion after this powerful S.Q. increase with ONE straw.....
For sure the mathematical formula to calculate the set of frequencies affected by a particular H. bottle or tube use the neck length and diameter in a crucial way... But this formula was no more an abstraction for me but suddenly a powerful audible modified sound in my experiment, a living experience.....
Like usual the improved S.Q. is sensible and audible in my 2 listening positions, nearfield and the more regular one.....
My best to you all.... |
Very important UPDATE about my 3 Helmholtz tubes and about my Helmholtz-Fibonacci room tuner....
I tried straws with 3 dimensions, the better one for the Big Helmholtz PVC plumber tube (8 feet) were regularย straw for the bigger tube andย 2 regular straws reduced to half of their normal diameterย on the other 2 smaller tubes.... The opening is closed with plastic cellophane stressed around the mouth of the tube with elastics... These tubes are plumber tubes with few inches diameter....
Results more clarity and astounding difference between the experiments with different diameters of the 1 /2 inches lenght straws...
For the Helmholtz-Fibonacci room tuner i wrapped the mouth of this thin plumber copper pipe with cellophane and elastic and the best results were with a thin hole pierced to the plastic sheet with a toothpick.... Fine tuning of high end audio indeed.... ๐
All this look insignificant and without great consequences at first sight and for the normal reader....Nothing is further from the truth, the impact is amazing and very powerful...
WHY ?
Because if you read the physics about the Helmholtz bottles you will learn how precise is the relation between the volume of the bottle and the lenght of the neck and his diameter linked to the frequency spectrum.... It is critical... When we are near the optimal numbers the impact is huge.... Like changing the amplifier...
My Helmholtz-Fibonacci room tuner is made with 3 sets of 3 pipes which lenght are near the golden ration, then they work all along a set of frequencies in synergetical effect...None of these 9 tubes has the same volume and lenght....
I am flabbergasted by the incommensurate effectย that reducing the diameter of a straw or pinning a hole with a toothpick in a plastic sheet can engender and produce a new level of S.Q.
Audio is fun, cost peanuts, and is akin to paradise...
Dont upgrade anything, listen, think, and embed everything....
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Thanks for the tip in the name of all of us...
Acoustic is not what people think it is....
My best to you.... |
If you turn on and plug the ionizer or MOSKITOFREE into a
charger in your cigarette lighter, the music in your
car can be transformed.ย As if you upgraded the radio head,
speakers, and amplifier!ย For peanuts. |
A simple thougth about acoustic and a simple experiment:
Simple thought:
A sound waveย with a speed of 343 meters per second cross my room of 3.9 meter, 88 times each second....Many times then each fraction of second ...
Imagine your room like a very tense string on a violin, the slightest change make it vibrate differently.... Your room acoustic space is like a tense string indeed.....The physician Helmholtz is the real father of room acoustic....
Simple experiment:
I change the diameter of the straw on my Helmholtz bigger tube(8 feet high) in my 9 foot high room...From a big straw for sloosh beverage 1/4 inches lenght to a regular straw one of lenght 1/4 inches lenght also....
Stupendous impact in bass and mid bass....The full tuba note around 35 hertz coming alive completely from my 7 inches bass driver....A miracle, listening the Empire Brass Gabrielli cd....All frequencies over bass better...
I communicate that to reveal the powerful impact of an apparent insignificant change that transform ALL the acoustical frequencies presentation...
Think about that 1/4 inches of a straw transforming all the acoustic of a room... Think about it! ๐๐๐๐
I already has known that myself by listening experiments but most people are so ignorant of that, they are ready to pay 100,000 bucks for a new amplifier that will have an another completely but similar powerful impact....
Mine has cost NOTHING.....PEANUTS....๐
Dont upgrade anything, embed everything....
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Thank you for the spirit of sharing. By the way the electrical motor must be always plugged by usb and there is no battery and this is not a rechargeable ionizer... The chinese marketing is false... But i dont give a dam about it, i dont use it in a car and for the listening of music it is better without battery.... Just to give the truth about it.... The product seems very good quality....Anf i cannot live without... Remember that my acoustical controls are good already and i can listen the difference between 2 changingย locations of the ionizer in my roomย immediately.... If you use it for you first acoustical control perhaps the effect will be less spectacular than in my case.... Anyway you will hear some i dont doubt that.... ๐ My best to you .... |
Thank you for the spirit of sharing. |
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Please generously post the link to the Chinese ionizer?
Thanks very much. |
UPDATE to my new room controls devices:
A second ionizer, a low cost chinese one,
I said that the chinese ionizer affect first the higher frequencies, and it is right...
But there is more than that, the bass notes of a pianio for example are way more clean and more detailed also...It is like upgrading my Sansui to a new amplifier.... ๐ Very strong audible effects across the frequencies with a more 3-D holographic imaging at the 2 positions, nearfield and more regular one....
This is amazing for 20 bucks..... I order another one, hoping to assign the very good and more costlier Moskitofree for the most important job for which it was first designed ,putting down the viruses on the ground.... The model i have is the one with a necklace useful when we take a bus, when we go to the grocery, or when we wait in a closed location....
I listened to my system which for his low price is one of the best there is no doubt.....๐ค
500 bucks is all is needed to smile listening music, and laugh at the idea of ANY upgrade at any cost...
I dreamed to buy a Berning ZOTL amplifier, and the Harbeth speakers, but at 10,000 bucks it will probably stay a dream.... But no frustration anymore about that for a longtime now, only the proudness associated with my ratio : low price system/ high quality sound.... ๐๐๐
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UPDATE to my new room controls devices:
A second ionizer,
I confirm the extraordinary effects on the better "timbre" perception by a liberation of the higher frequencies from their captivities in my room...
The Schumann generators grid did that to some degree, the French ionizer too, but this Chinese one is more powerful at least on par with them...
The files of lute i listen to now reach another level in the harmonic perception, and the silkier violin in Vivaldi resemble more of an addiction than ever....
In a word: an icing of the cake yes, but way more, because we never know what we are lacking in audio experience before experiencing it first..... |
NEW ADDITION to my room controls devices:
ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย ย A second ionizer,
From China, low cost and very efficient... Low noise level and ozone emission tough this time, it is not the same design of the french silent, ozone-free Moskitoefree....But the french company is assailled by asking consumers and cannot deliver anymore in America...(Moskitoefree repell moskitoes,pull down viruses to the ground, and ionized the room for 100 bucks !) i was sad but,
BUT theย sound result are the same, and i put it where in my room the very low noise level is inaudible...theย silent Moskitoesfree is over my desk between the speakers....
The effect of the Chinese ionizer are the same than the Moskitoefree at least and perhaps more powerful because bigger battery, and 20% of his cost....Peanuts.... Design is aluminum and sturdy....
Audible effects are perfectly audible in high frequencies perception and on imaging.... No doudts at all.... It is not placebo.... I listened to test it some very difficult files ....
This addition of ionizer are amazing.... I cannot live without them now.....
In my 2 postions of listening the effect is the same in imaging, high frequencies and an impression of an increase in soudstage....For 20 bucks....
Dont trust the market, dont trust the reviewers, dont trust anyone save you ears and creativity...
Dont upgrade, embed it.....
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UPDATE: H.F.S.O.
I almost woke upย my wife going in the basement in a hurry...
I sawed one ofย the pipe of the third set to improve the setย by being near of the area of the golden ratio...
A good thing, listening the same files in a few second all was better, at the same times the sound wasย more focussed in all frequencies but without loss this time in the "meat" around the " bone" ofย each tone ....
Greater pipe: 23 inches 1/2, the second one near 14 inches, the last pipe around nine inches.... BINGO!.....
Third set completed and i go back to the music....
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UPDATE: " Helmholtz-Fibonacci silent organ". ๐ My new room tuner set.. H.F.S.O.
A more precise ratio between pipes is of fundamental importance... A+B/A=A/B=1.618
2 inches less or 2 inches more on only one pipe alter the sound very greatly a very clear focus but with not enough meat on the tone bone so to speak with the 5 inches pipe, then i switch to the 7 unches with great improvement.... This third set is less well adjust toward the golden ratio tough....It work very well tough, i will adjust that in the weeks to come....
I add a third brick with a set of 23 inches and 14 inches and 7 inches....Not enough near the golden ratio but anyway, way more better than the previous 5 inches... The difference between 7 and 5 inches in this set was astounding.... ๐
The other 2 sets has their 3 lenght more near the golden ratio, this one not enough.... But anyway this third set work another level of refinement all across frequencies....
I locate it behind my head in my regular listening position....
This H.F.S.O. is my best best discovery with the "golden plates" and the modified Schuman Generators grid.....
Oufff what a day in music and audio.....
My best to all..... ๐ |
I forgot to say in my excitement that my pipes are what i take from my basement in the state where they are...
For an optimal working i would be in the obligation to cut them to a very precise ratio of lenght as that in the fibonacci ratio....Which they are not now....
But i give you the idea...
It work amazingly good as it is with in eac case the longer being the sum of the other 2, i dont doubt that with the right ratio between all of them, they will do a greaterย miracle in tuning the room...
I will add a third set of 2....My last three pipes with the same relation between them.....
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UPDATE: " Helmholtz-Fibonacci silent organ". ๐ My new room tuner set...
I am very excited....
I just finish to install my second set...
Just a new brick with holes where i posit 3 other copper plumber pipes with same diameter than the other 3 series BUT,
With new ratio lenght/diameter: respectively 12 inches, first pipe, and 20 inches, and 32 inches.... A golden ratio also but with another set of frequencies cleaning scope....
Results:
With the 2 sets not straight in front of my speakers, but laterally located, Amazing ....Better focussing of all frequencies range then all tone cleaner....Better timbre and better imaging in my 2 positions of listening....
Thanks to our fellow audiogoner audiotweak that suggest me the Argent " room lens" 3 set of 3 big tubes 6 or 7 feet high, open, with all the same lenght....... I tried first bigger plumber tubes ressembling this produc but with unequal lenght, one 8 feet, the others 5 feet, 2 feet...But my results were better closing the superior aperture and inserting a straw, more like in a real Helmholtz bottles...The results here also were very good... But not having a 3 feet tube was probably handicaping my results.... I cannot use the Fibonacci numbers ratio here...
Anyway i could with the thinner 2 set of three pipes.... ๐
Life is good....
What is more rewarding: buying a new amplifier, the Berning ZOTL of my dream or creating my own new device, the Helmholtz-Fibonacci silent organ, my own room tuner.... Guess which?
i can affirm to you that the upgrading effect is very strong and i dont recognize my favorite files for another the Nth times in the last 2 years...
Dont throw money, think, try, listen and enjoy....
Dont listen to people with highly costly system, they will never believe you that some plumber pipes can give what some many thousand electronic new upgrade can usually give....
I dont believe it myself...
I juste listen my music smiling and very proud.....
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I sell nothing except creativity....Have faith in yourself....
God give us ears, they are the best computer, not for analysing frequencies, equalizer are best for that, but to perceive music they are not replaceable for the time being....
My best to all....
ยซGosh! Have you just said that music is not a bunch of frequencies? Many will never understand you ...ยป-Groucho Marx |
My new tuning room device:
" Helmholtz-Fibonacci silent organ". ๐
I use a brick with holes in them for supporting copper/zinc standard plumbers pipes...
The diameter of the pipe are: 1 centimer and 1/2
The 3 pipes have respectively 2 feet , 3 feet and 5 feet lenght....It is the Fibonacciย golden mean ratio between the 3...
The effect was amazing and very noticeable on all counts...
A more optimal results could be obtained but i dont have the different diameter to try against different lenght...
These are standard plumber pipes...
Anyway the result is more than good....
In the last 2 weeks i improved a situation that i think was already good...
We have been brainwashed by reviewers of electronic component in Audio... ๐
The embeddings controls is the road..... Upgrades are at "some" point very silly or not so usefulย act.....
Keep yourย good audio system and try to embed it rightfully first .....
My best to all....
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Thanks for your post...
And wise contribution indeed...
Alas! moskitofree, Dont deliver anymore in america i think.... But you can try.... With the disease a low cost device able to put the virus on the floor after 10 minutes is not vey difficult to sell... I think the company is submerged by people who want one.... I try to buy another one without success...If someone is able i want to know report here....ย
For 100 bucks, not only one but 3 use is a deal made in paradise:
Viruses out!
Moskitoes out!
Sound better!
Which is more to come?
A cure for impotence? ๐
ย Your advice about the location is important i experiment it also... I use a ionizer also...
Yes acoustic is not only wave bouncing on walls with simple equations description...
It is a bit more complex, like any natural phenomena...
The modification of the air surrounding a system and a listener plays great role, if only an himalayan salt lamp with a low degree of ionization is audible a real ionizer is more potent for sure....
But dont say that too loud Dr. Diafoirus will mock you...
Here in this thread it is safe, the only idiot is me and i feel good and kind....
My deepest thanks for your contributions.... My best to you.... |
In my experience, the effects of the Moskitofree product
is enhanced by using an air ionizer.ย I keep the
former "on" all the time, and use a portable air
ionizer for only 15 minutes before a listening session.
It is as if the effect on the air in the room is supercharged.
As the height and location of a Schumann Resonator is important,
I have found that the Moskitofree placement can make aย
difference.ย Insted of above my head and behind me
(on a shelf) I am now placing it on the floor, between the
speakers, angled upwards andย towards the listening position.
If air is the medium through which all sound travels,
doesn't it make sense to pay attention to changes one can make
to the air, and the impact on sound quality?ย I recommend
Moskitofree to every serious audiophile... |
Thanks sgordon...
It give me pleasure to have some positive review about my thread or about my ideas...
I wish you the best....
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Hats off to you, Mahgister.ย I received the "family" version
of moskitofree from France.ย I agree with your comments.
The device probably should not be used when music
is just meant to be a backdrop for other activites.
When the device is "on" it simply brings the music
closer to you, and you become more aware of everything
you like, about what you are hearing.
I have used the device to treat cds, wanding for five rotations,
before playing.ย And doing the same around each ear.
The ionizer is silent and does not really move much air.
It is making a huge impact in what I am hearing, and is a
most pleasant surprise!ย A keeper, for sure. |
Second short UPDATE about the ionizer...
Not only timbre decay is better but really the imaging. where each instrument if connected together reveal an acoustical atmosphere of their own, each one in his own aural glowing presence, the imaging flow in my room way more detailed and cohesive... Spectacular more refine in nearfield and on his own more dynamicalย way in regular position... I cannot chose between the 2 postions like always, nevermind the files....
This is really more than icing on my acoustical embeddings controls cake...
This is impossible for me now to take off the ionizer....
My best to all.... |
Short update:
My ionizer is really amazing....
It is not so much the Electronical design of this or that " Branded name" product which will give you an audiophile experience; at first and at last it will be the breathing synchonized waves in the acoustical space of your room.... Nothing else, nor a new cable, a new dac or a new amplifier, and most of the times even not a new pair of speakers will do it satisfyingly....
This "breathing sychonized waves" is an event coming from what i called, passive materials treatment of the room +active Controls of the acoustical embeddings...
Add the other 2, the mechanical embeddings and the electrical grid embeddings of the audio system and of the house and NO upgrade of one of your electronic component can rival and beat the rightful embeddings controls of these 3 dimensions... NONE....
This is the only one truth i experienced and experimented with....
I will let their upgrading process to sellers and buyers...
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ยซYou speak like a preacher! Do you sell something?ยป-Groucho Marx
ยซHis beauty was like Niagara Falls sometimes veiled by the mistยป-Groucho Marx travelling the States. |
Update about all these devices and improvement...
I discovered all of them with great listenings feed back sessions and luck...
I dont know which one is better in an absolute measurable sense of the word, save for my listenings impression...
Then i dont know which will be the better for you to begin with in your own noisy House/room/system...
But anyone who will judge hastily them without really trying some in some way will make an error....
My last device is a luck incident, i bought this ionizer for killing the viruses not for audio, but i remembered myself some fact about ionization and audio then it was it , the improvement is amazing....
Like i said in a normal, non rightly embedded, more noisier system than the actual mine, i dont know which % of the positive effect will be audible by you.... Then eliminate the vibrations of your speakers and gear first, put the "golden plate" all along the electrical grid at stategic location.... Treat acoustically your room, try some modified cheap Schumann Generators.... After that try the ionizer....
ยซThe tree is burning, run off, we must kill these beasts!ยป-Unknown caveman
ยซNo, we must feed this fire and some beast and taming them without fearยป-ย Einstein caveman's incarnation.
ยซ Take my lighterยป -An englishman to an Australian native
ยซI will feed my fire, keep the lighterยป -Aborigenal man
ยซDont upgrade the audio beast, feed it and tame it brotherยป- Groucho Marx reading my thread.
ยซMake your own fire!ยป-Anonymus Smith |
UPDATE: IMPORTANT FOCUS POINT ABOUT MY NEW UNORTHODOX ACOUSTICAL DEVICE,
First the effect is at the same time very audible and very subtle....
Very audible and very subtle?
How to reconcile these seeming 2 contradictory points?
Simple, think about each musical sound like a consonant with a vowel, think like if each musical tone was a syllable, the vowel being the decay of the main tone-consonant in my metaphor...Then each musical sound is spoken more clearly...Very audibly and very subtly...
Then the effect of my new device is a better articulation between the tone and his decay...This is very audible trust me...But subtle indeed...
But why is it subtle?
It is subtle because you will miss very much the greater part of this great improvement if you begins by this acoustical control device first, for your first or second or even third acoustical installation control...
All along my thread there is a progression between my experiments...
You cannot put a "golden" plate for example on the external electrical station of your house and wait for a big change...
There will be one but not only subtle but perhaps almost inaudible in an acoustically non controlled and non treated room, with a noisy not enough or adequately mechanically controlled speakers and audio system....
All improvement linked to an installation device produce a change sometimes big one, that will be evaluated very differently in some not enough controlled system/house/ย versus some room and a house perfectly controlled...I dont even speak about the hearing limitation of the inexperimented ears of the beginners and their lack of confidence in their own power to sense...
I say that because superficial mind will judge superficially without even thinking about the object being judged...And will not be able to critically assess the limitation of their own system before criticizing others... It is human nature... ๐๐
Especially in audio where most people dont trust their own ears, have never learned by experiments and dedication how to listen to sound and music and are in the habit to pay for gaining and keeping the conviction (placebo+influence of the condioned market) that their audio system will improve even if they are not sure and completely satisfied but because some reviewers has said so...
Then dont stumble in this thread , trying my new device, and posting after that: "Nope, this is an illusion it did nothing at all, this dude is nut; this inozer is very subtle indeed i dont even know if i hear something or not ๐ซ๐"
The ionizer work for me after 2 years of incremental improvements... And the only thing that would have replace it perhaps would have been the change of my low cost Sansui for my dreamed Berning ZOTL amplifier... But the staggering difference in price is not very attractive... Especially after this ionozer installation... Do you understand now why i always say: Dont upgrade something, go on instead for a rightful embedding of everything, especially if your audio system is already relatively good... And my Sansui was so good and better today, thanks to the ionizer device,ย than my purchase of a Berning zotl will wait, perhaps till the end of the world, as powerful my set ofย embeddings controls are now... ๐๐
ยซ Stupidity has no relation with the fact that some mind understand or not something or some point. Stupidity is the complete absence of auto-critic.The thinking process is thenย dead in the egg, so to speakยป-Anonymus Smith
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UPDATE: increasing the power of my NEW UNORTHODOX ACOUSTICAL DEVICE, My audio system reach top level for me in the last night...I have sleep very few hours....๐ I just realized that my new moskitofree device was working marvellously increasing the S.Q. very audibly by adding a better processed decay to any tone and sound... Giving them more air around to breath ...But... An idea comes to my mind about the right way to use it by placing it above one of my 3 himalayan salt lamps... I have three, one near my speakers and 2 under my desk, the speakers being on my desk....These lamp ionized slightly the air, and believe it or not they have an audible effect, exactly like the moskitofree device but way less powerful, anyway an audible effect...I bought them for that few years ago... I dont believe in anything, i experience in my mind or experiment...Dont believe in God just experience with God in your mind, a thinking experience like Einstein imagining himself flying with the light and you will sense an effect, then go on ith this effect and look where it takes you....Anyway....๐ Then last night i decided to make an experiment by suspending the moskitofree device above the salt lamp. beside my right speakers... The idea is to make the cold plasma produced by the device, or ionized gas produced by the moskitoe device to work near the salt lamp and then helping the lamp work on his own and using the salt to liberate more ions in the air... That work great! So much, than the audible effect appear to be on par or perhaps greater than my 12 connected Shumann generators together...But you will have a powerful effect without any lamp also...A bit less tough...But anyway a remarkable one... I cannot fathom without being amazed the subtle but very audible transformation of the perceived aura of sound....I could not sleep.... With any sound system you live with, you develop an habit, and you dont perceive immediately the unnaturalness of the sound directly, you perceive instead in an incremental way each changes and each increase in S.Q. seems the end of the road or appear like a place to rest... And you think, now i have it, at last, this natural timbre perception... And you have it yes, but not completely and you dont know it yet, but you think about the last time when you have change your embeddings controls reaching another another better level... It was the same thing last night, i have reach a complete new level in timbre naturalness and the sound now breathe in space in my entire room... Ok i was thinking that it was my end road limit.... How can i improve it? it seems impossible and i am so happy i dont give a dam i prefered to immerse myself in music...today i dont give a dam either and music is enough... This is one of my meditation music,very powerful... This is a difficult file to be played rightly or optimally on any audio system....If your audio system is not at his optimal level you will guess it with this file annoying sound....On top system this music is divine tough... 2 Voices with a circle of firing tuning forks at different frequencies with very subtle circle of chimes above that... Your system is good if you listen to that without any fatiguing harshness, with a FLOWING waves caressing you all around you and filing the room in a kind of whirlwind... With all my 2 years listenings experiments my goal was , between many others, a perfect rendition of this file... I succeeded last night, after many hundred listenings of these file in the last 15 years.... ๐๐คช๐ต๐ Holy Harmony Jonathan Goldman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJRpoUk-mpU&t=346s&pbjreload=101 Piano and xylophone are also a supreme test...Piano for timbre texture, and xylophone for analysing decay process and the breathing air space between notes... Walt Dickerson and Sun Ra 2 geniuses of jazz together...Dickerson is a supreme master, not a good player or an ordinary rythmic virtuoso only...Sun Ra when serving others reveal his total musical inspiration and greatness... There exist in all jazz very few communication at the level of this 2 in this cd....They make another one that is also top creative jazz...(creative jazz not free jazz) Visions Walt Dickerson with Sun Ra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEz8NZzffX8ยซ One idea each day keep the doctor awayยป- Groucho Marx |
UPDATE: A NEW UNORTHODOX ACOUSTICAL DEVICE,
After many hours of listening i know how to describe the audible effect of the moskitofree device...
Simple indeed,ย the decay process of any tone is way longer and richer giving new space to the imaging bubble of each instrument without separating themย and a refinement to the timbre...
I pinch myself to verify if i was dreaming...It is impossible to stop listening...
It is amazingย the way a triple embeddings rightly controls rooms make any change a crystal clear experience and make a so powerful upgrade...
But this time it must be the end of the road for me now.....
Ecstasy cannot erase ecstasy and rewrite it, except perhaps in heaven....
But wait a minute, it is precisely what my embeddings controls made possible each time but without erasing the last ecstasy, more like superposing one ecstasy on the last one making it more deeper....
Anyway i am happy like the last time i was dying but it is another story....
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A NEW UNORTHODOX ACOUSTICAL DEVICE, not homemade, not at a peanut cost like most of my own creations all along this thread but it is working... ๐ I hesitated a bit to comunicate that because i am proud of my creativity and to this day i improvised my embeddings controls all by myself with no branded name product addition....I modified the Shumann generators even if i bought them ready made....This new product i will not touch it tough....I only imagined for it an unknown use to the inventorโs brain.... Anyway.... I just bought a French product designed to perturb the olfactive sense of moskitoes by ionizing the molecules of the air and taking viruses to the floor instead of letting them surfing toward your nose.... I created for it a third function unsuspected and unexpected by the French inventor.... ๐๐๐ I will only give a short citation from the french site about how this device work: ยซOur technology is based on the principle of dielectric barrier discharges. Our technology does not use any consumables and does not generate any chemical residue. An electrode is subjected to a high electrical voltage, which produces controlled dielectric barrier discharges which, acting on the components of the ambient air, create a cold plasma of ions. The anions thus produced have a proven antiviral and anti-bacterial effect, and also have a repellent effect on mosquitoes, by annihilating the odors emitted by human beings and by disturbing their olfactory organs.ยป https://www.moskitofree.com/?lang=enI bought it first like a portable antivirus device that can add protection to the mask in close waiting room; i was trustful because this device has been certified to works officially by Pasteur Institute in a joint venture between the private sector and the Institute it seems...... BUT ionizing the air of a room stick a bell in my head of audiophile....This may work good for asthma but also to the hearing apparatus and do well with the room atmosphere indeed... I add it to my audio room, and guess what? Audible modification of the closed atmosphere by ionization make the sound to be more easily perceptible , each colored tone and timbre dynamic being more refine....At nearfield and at regular distance....the device is able to treat a small room... Then i must give to you the good news, something that repell the mosquitoes because they smell you no more, that makes virus falls on the floor instead of surfing in the air , and a device that transforn the acoustical settings of the room for 100 US dollars is low cost.... It is not peanuts cost tough i am sorry for that.... BUT now i cannot go without it.... That device kills 3 birds in one shot..... ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ฆ๐ซ ๐ Not ๐ฅ but nevermind low cost.......Anything under 100 us is low cost in my book, anything under 25 us is peanuts.... Happy New Year..... ยซ Youre kidding me son, the same device repell mosquitoes, make virus fall on the ground and transform the sound for your ears? I will call the asylum or sell me oneยป- Groucho Marx |
Food for tought:
Among my hundred( around 120 cables connections) connections, between my resonators grids , diffusors, Schuman generators grid, sometimes a cable(they are very thin and glued by copper adhesive tape often) detach itself by accident and i cannot know it on the spot...
Today this 4 connections, 2 between my diffusors grid and 2 in my resonators grid connected to the central"Bell of bells" (36 little resonators with H.D. on a bigger bell) spontaneously disconnect themselves....
I did not know why nor when this happened in the last night ...
I was listening some piano, a cd of Bach by Feltsman i know by heart, and i was disapointed by the sound, by a lack of transparency, the image was correct, but i has sense a veil that was not there few days ago...
I stood up and inspect my connections, i spot the problem rapidly ...
Conclusion:
All These connections were made few at a times, incrementally in the last 2 years, each one added something positive, sometimes very subtle....
When i look at all these cables i think that perhaps i am nut....Like my wife think....
But the proof is there, each time i lost to much connections (this already happened a few times the audible๐ค) the resultant effect is disastrous; the level of loss is dependent of the connection itself, the Schumann Generators being the most important central grid of all these grids then the most important connections, but all others also are valuable from the first day that i decide to introduce them until today....
I am nut but i am proud to have been able to create my paradise, at peanuts cost i remind you of that....๐
Happy new year in this Christmas day..... |
Ah! thank you illuminated and enlightened soul...
i wish you the best for this coming years and Merry Christmas....
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Someone just said to me that you can tweak a turntable but not a dac....It is ridiculous .... ๐
Most people are unconscious of the fact that ANY electronic component is a GENERIC design which will contribute to the final S.Q ONLY by a SPECIFIC installation in the three controlled embeddings, nevermind the fact that it is a turntable or a dac...And embeddings controls are not disparate tweaks...But it is another story i already adressed... ๐๐ง
NO generic design can sound the same in different specific environment....It is precisely the reason why all reviews are anecdotes and not facts...
What is significative with reviews is their numbers statistics, negative or/and positive, not the details of each one....
I bought my Sansui AU 7700 because there is not one negative review in 50 years... Try and look for one.....๐
Except for the very rich people who can afford to enroll an acoustician, and an electrician and a mechanical engineer, and buy the best costly engineered gear; it is not money that will give to most of us audiophile experience, it is the rightfull controls of the three embeddings, and that can cost peanuts but you need ears and brain....
Money is finally not so useful or indispensable in audio, except for those who dont use their brain....๐
ยซ What is food for tought for some poor fellow is bullshit for the bankerยป-Groucho Marx
Merry Christmas....
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My room is a like an adjunct brain connected to my soul and the sound waves are our dual thinking process ...
This was my imagination all along my acoustical embeddings explorations....
Food for tought.... ๐๐๐ |
Ok Derek i will do it i apologize for time delay....
Just a word: nevermind the design, the idea is to suppress the empty concave corner and made it a convex polyedral shape with a square and a triangle pieces....
Merry Christmas to you....
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Merry Christmas, Mahgister. Can you post a photo of your Christmas corner ornament? ๐ I'm having a difficult time conjuring up your design. Thanks. |
ANOTHER UPDATE: Your speakers dont like to live with 4 empty ceiling corners....
On the five corners in my room now the fourth have been treated by rectangular aluminium covered cardboard plate and a triangular one, forming on the corner a kind of half pyramid......
I was not dreaming one month ago about another increase in quality so much audible.... I was really thinking that my embedding journey was over now....I was just listening music not the sound....ย
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What a mistake....
I read 30 years ago about the particular effect of shape on the quality of the energy field.... Corner was not the best place for positive energy.... The great Austrian architect Rudolf Steiner was also replacing often corners in his design by regular or irregular undulatingย polyedral shape...
3 days ago listening music all that comes to my mind....
A bit of cardboard and aluminium paper, a bit of transparent tape.... All was done....
Another fantastic acoustical embedding passive control free of charge for those of us who dont walk together dancing to the same tune with most....๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐โ๐ฆบ
Merry Christmas....๐๐๐๐๐
I return to violin music, it is better than ever here......
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