LSA Voyager GAN Amplifier

Please stop you are only hurting yourself.

what will your wife say? 
 

oh I know “oh that loser mike” 

Now you are talking in the third person….you are unstable.

bet his customers are more concerned about the product quality. Because they already knew about the industry losers before doing business with him to begin with. Thats why they did. Because they had the intelligence to do so. Jerry on the other hand. It’s like the social profile of a typical school shooter. Sad and alone. and the mod he’s fucking here doesn’t offer much for emotional support.

and still you are out of business. No matter how you rationalize it you had no idea what you were doing. Undercapitalized, expense, SGA, EBIT. You were clueless. No your customers were victims not intelligent. 

Imagine how all his former customers feel.

real class. I called it he is a narcissistic sociopath. 

Really sad that some people here have to resort to childish insults and name calling when they feel threatened by the opinions of others. One wonders about the mental health of people so willing to debase and embarrass themselves.

Yep Mike I am the loser.

I am the one who humiliated himself.

Ranted for 3 days about how great he is and was banned from ASR.

I am the one who calls himself the messiah of Audio and has his Audio business FAIL and ghosted my customers for over a year.

You call tweakers like Ric frauds. You are the only fraud here. Talk about KARMA!

BTW don't want to get you hard like you get over Bruno.

I am 55, 5'8 and 165 lbs. I play hockey 3 days a week, run, swim and have a wife 10 years younger than me.

Enjoy your miserable petty life Mike.

Real mature.

@mivmike or the appropriate name F-Face.

So charming. And mature.

@kuribo , it does not appear possible to have an adult conversation. That would require people to behave like adults. You tried.

Okay Andy er Cindy all you clowns have done is put Ric down and that is adult.

Time for you to go.

he doesn't upgrade, he modifies. And almost certainly based on his lack of fundamental knowledge of the circuitry, he degrades their performance to suit his own version of "good sound", fidelity to the input signal be damned.

So says you. The King Audio Fool.

@kuribo such a db his stuff is junk face it and all you do is puke on everyone else's gear. Talk about a child.  I know you have a boy crush now. 

Cave yep I live in a cave.

Junk is junk and that is what you peddle.

So long

@cindyment Sadly, that is the only conclusion that can be drawn- too much noise, not enough signal.

So why cant that be the case with Rick upgrading these amps?

he doesn't upgrade, he modifies. And almost certainly based on his lack of fundamental knowledge of the circuitry, he degrades their performance to suit his own version of "good sound", fidelity to the input signal be damned.

@kuribo , it does not appear possible to have an adult conversation. That would require people to behave like adults. You tried.

I will not give Bruno a single thought and will never own another piece of his junk again.

 

I'm sure there is something out there for you that sounds great in a cave.

that is a rather toxic rant on your part and really unwarranted

Go to your safe space then.

Buh Bye Cindy. er Andy

@jerryg123 that is a rather toxic rant on your part and really unwarranted. By any measure, the Purifi modules set an incredible standard for state of the art in amplification not just at their price, but at almost any price.

It's like photography. Bruno created an 100 megapixel camera, with super high dynamic range, incredible optical resolution, and perfect color rendering, and he did it for $2,000.  Now some people are really offended by this, both because it is so much better than what they own, but also because the plebs can now own something better than what they have. They could just buy it themselves, but then that would require accepting its superiority.  Then there are a different group of people who love, for whatever troubles it may have, the look of film, grain, inconsistencies, lower effective resolution and all. They like their colors a bit more vivid and skewing to red, and they like their images a bit softer. Bruno's new camera is not for them.

Which photographer are you @jerryg123 ?

I will not give Bruno a single thought and will never own another piece of his junk again.

Think you have crush boy.

Simple you had not been saying that for 2 days on this thread you two clowns hijacked.

It is all graphs and crap. Guessing we are seeing right through you two.

So why cant that be the case with Rick upgrading these amps?

You guys are real hypocrites.

Think of Bruno as a modern vintner. He grows grapes, measures the sugar content, the acidity, etc. that he knows produces what he wants. He measures. He tests. He produces a wine based on his knowledge of chemistry as it relates to wine. Of course, as he has said many times, he also tastes (listens). Science got him there, his palate confirms it. Not all like it- because tastes differ. Some claim they can add some root beer to it and it tastes better. To some people, it might. To others, not so much.

So here is my question. If these Purfi equipped amplifiers are so great why is it I returned my NAD M33 after 45 days because it sounded awful?

Simple: because we have different tastes and one size does not fit all. Awful to you is awesome to someone else.

So here is my question. If these Purfi equipped amplifiers are so great why is it I returned my NAD M33 after 45 days because it sounded awful?

But Bruno said……I had it Driving QLN Prestige 5s and could not wait to put my X200 back in the system.

Right now I have the Bel Canto ref501S in my system and sounds fantastic, better than the Mini GaN5 or my Orchard Mono’s.

@ricevs 

Again, you cannot tell you got rid of the hysteresis by measurements. More feedback will lower the distortion number....does not mean there is no longer hysteresis. Is hysteresis even measureable? There is no correlation to any measurement and reduction of AUDIBLE hysteresis. You have to listen to really know something......sorry, just the way it is. NOTHING is self evident from distortion measurements.......except a measurement. There is zero correlation between measurements and the sound of electronics........please, again, i beg you to show me the double blind listening test results that show a correlation between measurements and sound quality.........where are they? In your mind......Its all in your mind. We must listen to know something.

If you insist on being detached from reality then it will be impossible for us to have a meaningful conversation. Absolutely hysteresis will show up in a distortion test, especially any IM distortion test. It should be self evident. If it is not, there is not much i can do to help you. I suggest studying hysteresis more and perhaps modelling it in an electronic circuit. There are mathematical models that are half decent and that you could plug into spice and see what happens.

Any distortion in the feedback loop is going to be influenced by negative feedback. that is what negative feedback does. It is analog error correction. And since you can measure the distortion before and after, especially IM distortion, it is very easy to know what the feedback does to the distortion. You not understand this does not make it incorrect, it just means you do not understand this.

If you did the simulation, or even built a test circuit and measure it, you would see what the distortion products look like. From that, knowing the level and order of even and odd harmonics, you can relate how that may sound, from the tons of psycho acoustic studies into distortion, to the average person. This is science, but not rocket science. Again, you not knowing this does not make it not true, it just means you do not know it.

I can't tell you specifically how any given person is going to behave to a specific distortion signature, but I can certainly make generalizations that will be highly accurate across a wider population of listeners. That is why we know added distortion, even added noise can result in pleasing listening impressions, or false sense or loudness, or harshness or ....  Because while we are different, we are also very similar.

NO, you don't get it.  Good sound is good sound.  Measurements have no sound.  They are just in your head. 

We could go on and on......the basic objectivist versus subjectivist game.......I am stopping now......why don't you do likewise.....I am sure that you will want the last word though......have at it......no matter what you do.....eternal love and joy still exists in the now.  Please tune into it for all our sakes.

There is zero correlation between measurements and the sound of electronics........please, again, i beg you to show me the double blind listening test results that show a correlation between measurements and sound quality.........where are they?


 

You just don't get it- you can't correlate something objective like actual measured physical phenomena like distortion with something subjective like "good sound", by definition. Yes, "good sound" is all in your head, and only yours.

Again, you cannot tell you got rid of the hysteresis by measurements. More feedback will lower the distortion number....does not mean there is no longer hysteresis. Is hysteresis even measureable? There is no correlation to any measurement and reduction of AUDIBLE hysteresis. You have to listen to really know something......sorry, just the way it is. NOTHING is self evident from distortion measurements.......except a measurement. There is zero correlation between measurements and the sound of electronics........please, again, i beg you to show me the double blind listening test results that show a correlation between measurements and sound quality.........where are they? In your mind......Its all in your mind. We must listen to know something.

I don’t need his or your respect from your minds opinions. I respect myself. I love myself. I am worthy. What I know is what I experience. I trust my experience and my ears. I am not other directed. I don’t need the praise of someone else....except the real praise that comes from the heart. I love Bruno.....he loves me. What we think in our minds is just thoughts.......usually ego based. The soul just loves. I love you, I love Bruno, you love me....Bruno loves me......this is truth....eternal truth.

@mivmike 

You really need too learn more, and type less.

They Hypex modules have the inductor in the feedback loop. The Purifi are an advancement, but they are just "better" not architecturally that much different, not even the components are that substantially different. They are an evolution not a revolution.