Sounds good, thanks
Looking to Upgrade Outlet
I just had a dedicated line installed for my system and I'm looking to upgrade my outlet and need some recommendations. My current outlet is hospital grade and I'm hoping for recommendations based on my current system and sound preferences. I read many threads here but too often there are so many suggestions that it becomes too confusing just like cables and tubes.
My system consists of the Primaluna Dialogue Premium integrated amp with 6 Cifte 12AU7 and 4 GL KT77 tubes driving Lawrence Audio Violin SE speakers and a JL Audio E110 sub and my sources are all digital. My digital, power cords, speaker and RCA cables are all from Synergistic along with their FEQ, XOT and ground block. The power cords are connected to the Core Power Tech 1800 and all fuses have been upgraded. All connections have been treated with Total Contact with the exception of the power line into the outlet. I don't plan to make any equipment changes now that I'm retired. My system is very musical and don't like anything that's analytical or bright sounding.
Please, I don't want this thread to be another controversial subject about snake oil, etc and please no negative comments.
My system consists of the Primaluna Dialogue Premium integrated amp with 6 Cifte 12AU7 and 4 GL KT77 tubes driving Lawrence Audio Violin SE speakers and a JL Audio E110 sub and my sources are all digital. My digital, power cords, speaker and RCA cables are all from Synergistic along with their FEQ, XOT and ground block. The power cords are connected to the Core Power Tech 1800 and all fuses have been upgraded. All connections have been treated with Total Contact with the exception of the power line into the outlet. I don't plan to make any equipment changes now that I'm retired. My system is very musical and don't like anything that's analytical or bright sounding.
Please, I don't want this thread to be another controversial subject about snake oil, etc and please no negative comments.
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I have the NCF and the GTX Gold installed in my power conditioner. I find the Gold receptacle to be a little warmer, not a night and day difference in my situation. I will say that when you upgrade to a higher quality receptacle you will get more detail, so be conscious of that. I have heard from people that this is a warm sounding receptacle>> https://www.vhaudio.com/oyaide-swo-gx.html I would also consult with Chris from VH audio and get his opinion for the comparison between the GTX Gold and the SWO-GX. I would also consider buying from him as well. To me the NCF is the best I have heard. I would not really call it analytical, but if you have the wrong ingredients as you know, it can expose things in your system, that might make it sound analytical. My system does not have tubes and I am using 3 NCF's and I do not have brightness at all. As a matter of fact, the first thing people say when they hear my system, is how warm it sounds. So I would say to play it safe, get a gold plated receptacle. Best, tom |
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I appreciate everyone's responses and suggestions. I understand that any component is system dependent and based on personal tastes. I also understand some are skeptical concerning outlets, but I found that changing power cords and fuses had a dramatic impact to my system. Additionally buying a companies higher priced cables doesn't necessarily mean it sounds better. As I stated, it's a matter of tastes. I'm leaning towards the SR black since I use and I'm happy with SR cables and tweaks as folkfreak suggested and the fact that SR has a 30 day return policy as David suggested. The 30 day return policy has worked for me several times previously. If I'm not satisfied with the blacks I may consider the Furutech Gold since I found it 33% off list at the cable company. Since I'll order the outlet thru the cable company, I'll ask their opinion between both outlets. Thanks again for everyone's input and I'll post my findings. Ron |
@ronrags your post had me digging through my store room and I have a pair of SR Teslaplex SE "Red" duplex outlets that I replaced with Blacks in my system. They are about 4 years old and have less than one years use on each one and look in nigh perfect condition. PM me if you are interested and I’ll send them to you gratis so you can try them out and see if they work in your system (as they're not doing anything in mine!) |
ronrags: I am glad you will be improving your outlets. They make a big difference. I have used Oyaide R-1, Furutech GTX Gold, Furutech GTX Rhodinium, PS Audio Premier, Synergistic Research RED, and Synergistic Research Black. I would suggest trying the Synergistic Research Black. Big soundstage, great detail without being etched, a wonderful sense of flow to the music. All of the above mentioned outlets need at least 10 days of electrical current to fully settle in. The SR outlets do come with a 30 day return policy which is nice. My Furutechs did not. I spent approximately 6 months evaluating outlets without other changes to my system. I hope this can be of help. David Pritchard |
@ronrags I really believe all the above brands mentioned in this thread are good, and many others that have not been mentioned. I personally have switched to all Furutech outlets. So if you wanted gold plated I personally go with Furutech GTX-D Gold. If you aren't in a hurry, do a search on Google or eBay to find your best price, I've noticed that the Furutech GTX-D Gold is currently receiving a discount by many establishments. |
@lak that's the type of response I was hoping for so that's why I mentioned my equipment and my preference of sound. Based on what you stated I would favor the gold plated. I converted to a tube amp especially with the GL KT77 for a smooth, warm sound. My sub gives me enough slam that is not overwhelming. Another factor is my small listening room and I sit less than 8 ft from the speakers. Since I would most likely favor gold plated, how would that compared to the brands mentioned above? |
All of the above suggestions are good and all of those products will produce a slightly different sound. Basically what it comes down to is what type of sound do you want to hear, and how will they perform in your home with your system? A simplification is: Smooth = Gold plated. More detailed with more bass slam = Rhodium plated. And then there are the flavors in between. My suggestions would be Furutech GTX-D Gold, Furutech GTX-D Rhodium, or Furutech NCF (R) Rhodium Plated. Unfortunately, you won't know what you really like or the sound that will be produced until you audition any outlet and allow for break-in. I'll bet you would be happy with whichever outlet you select as long as its a high-end outlet. |
In my system, I have close to 50K invested, so I figured two $100.00 outlets were worth it. I have 2 dedicated lines, on 15 amp and a 20 amp. I did the wiring myself and had it checked by the city where I live. Back when I did it I spent around 600 on materials including the 2 outlets. It was about a 4 hour job, not a bad way to spend a Sunday afternoon. |
Hello ronrags, I'm having a dedicated 20 amp circuit installed tomorrow by an electrician that happens to be into high-end audio. This electrician owns Threshold STASIS series amps designed by Nelson Pass (Pass Labs) who lives not too far from here. He also knows Nelson personally. Anyway, during his evaluation of my home's layout and electrical panel, he mentioned that I didn't need to install hospital grade receptacles. My system currently consists of an Audio Note OTO Phono SE Signature, Nottingham Analogue Interspace Jr. and Magnum Dynalab MD102 FM tuner. I plan on adding a CDP in the near future. I don't know how long you've had your dedicated circuit installed or if the hospital grade wall receptacles you have now are old or recently installed (you don't mention) but many A'goners here have suggested listening to your system for a while before pulling the plug on expensive outlets for example Furutech's, FPX or GTX, Shunyata, etc. or even expensive power cables. I did purchase 4 Porter Ports because the wall outlets I have now were installed by the builder when the home was built 11 yrs ago. Porter Ports are Cryo treated Hubbell 5362, 20 amp rated wall receptacles by the way. I realize people will hear what they hear and that's fine but I'm a bit skeptical of folkfreak's (No offense folkfreak) comment about an electrical outlet being "layered, rich and musical." It's a wiring device designed to provide connecting points within the power distribution chain. Allowing current to flow more freely to devices connected to it, that's one thing but imparting musicality, well - that's a bit of a stretch in my book. But that's me. People are gonna hear, what people are gonna hear. Just something to consider. |