Looking to Develop A Short List of Amplifier Candidates For A Pair Of JBL 4367 Speakers

@gruvjet 

There is no intelligence in AI, that’s supposed to come from the human performing the query. The output from ChatGPT will vary depending on how you structure your query.  

You present the ChatGPT output as if it was an Authoritative answer from a Superior Being. What if we all posted our ChatGPT output? Based on how we ask the question, we’ll all get a different response. 

Would you want to have to wade through that?

The OP and everyone else can also query ChatGPT, so what value do you think you are providing?

It’s one thing to treat ChatGPT as a research assistant but to not validate the output is pretty lazy. Fact checking is where the real work begins.

Did you ask for sources? Where did ChatGPT get this data? From professional audio reviewers and trade magazines (ex: TAS or Stereophile)? If you don’t ask for sources you won’t know. I’d rather read the source directly so I can form my own opinion rather than have a Pattern Recognition Tool create an opinion for me.

Finally, AI’s often "hallucinate" or lie. If you point out an error in  ChatGPT’s output it will typically respond with something like "You make an excellent point! I’ll incorporate that change in my responses from now on."

AI can be used for a lot of good purposes. I recommend you ask ChatGPT what it’s best use is, based on its strengths. Posting on Audiogon won’t be one of them. 

Thanks for the feedback re: ChatGPT.  I'm curious to know how accurate the response is.  Rather than thumb your nose at it, offer constructive criticism. 

Why not use the Audiogon forum as input to the model and have a chatbot within Audiogon?  

Are you all saying you won't use AI for audio gear suggestions?  

I recommend you check out the Lejonklou HiFi solid state amplifiers from Sweden.  They have an integrated amp, the Boazu 2, under $5000 and exceptional, yet relatively compact, mono block power amps at $6500 each, the Tundra Mono 3.

Check Part Time Audiophile show reports for RMAF 2016 and 2017.   In 2016 Rafe Arnott gave the Lejonklou/Nokturne Audio room Best Sound of Show with the previous Tundra Mono 2.2 driving a pair of JBL 3677 speakers.  The following year he said the room was even better (although a subwoofer, also JBL driven by a third Tundra Mono had been added).  
 

I am the North American distributor for Lejonklou HiFi you might expect some bias.  But I had never heard the JBLs sound that good with other electronics and they were my personal speakers for a number of years.  Now I am running a fully rebuilt pair of Quad ESL speakers with the Tundra Mono 3s and they musically outperform anything I have heard on them.  I brought an older stock pair of Quads to Axpona in 2019 with the Lejonklou electronics and John Atkinson said they were one of the highlights of the show.  A review from Stereophile on the Boazu 2, along with our streamer, the Källa, and our MC phono stage, the Entity 1.2, should be out within a few months from Alex Halberstadt.  I don’t know what speakers he will use but he owns Altec A7s and is a fan of horn loudspeakers.  I believe he reviewed one of the newer JBL monitor speakers a while back and quite liked them, although I don’t remember if they were 4367s.

hi

great choice in the 4367.

i have used my 4367 speakers with Gryphon Diablo and then my Audio Note SET amp (211).  the only reason i bought the 2nd hand diablo was because i had always wanted to own one and i wanted to know if my preferred amp (SET) was driving them well enough.  i figured if not i might bi-amp.

a few points

#1 - imo solid state thru the jbl 4367 isn't default pleasant, even something with a reputation for some sweetness like the diablo.  they are a neutral speaker and they don't lie or roll off much.  they can sound hard.  you can be listening, thinking "wow" but then 2 hours in you realise your ears hurt.  

#2- tonally the SET is wonderful.  never anything hard or shrill etc.  just extremely nice by default imo.  i have around same size room as you 13 foot by 16 foot with 16 feet ceilings.

#3 - in a comparison with diablo for music, i couldn't see that the 211 failed with bass woofer control.  not at all.  i didn't even bother bi-amping.  the SET sound was brilliant and i was happy with it in comparison to diablo.  for movie watching, i did however find the diablo sounded "better".  i think this is because there is so much "atmospheric bass" in movies.  so not an issue with 2 channel music in comparison but for movies etc it was discernible.  but again the hardness would come in.  so it was thrilling watching "the fly" for example with diablo and 4367, but also hurt ears slightly. this is thru a tubed abbas dac.

#4 - the 211 amp i have has huge transformers and i think this helps the 20W of SET power get the job done with these 94 dB efficient speakers.  

#5 - i found good footers helped the 4367 be a gentle giant.  i put CMS LS2.25 footers on it and this helped the whole thing.  the speakers have disappeared now and i get a wide and deep presentation with great dynamics, resolution and tone.  it's thrilling.  having the speaker elevated is also critical.  they were voiced up on cinder blocks as i recall.  

#6 - i do find i need to be at around 12 pm on the dial for them to be their absolute best and "come to life".  having said that, maybe that's the room.  12 pm is not crazy loud at all (like 80 db kind of thing at listening).  so it isn't a problem for me and i don't find that situation to be much different to any other speaker i've heard.

I can highly recommend the Laiv Harmony GaNM monoblock class D amps to you. I’ve been extremely happy with mine thus far. I am sure they would sound wonderful with your speakers.