Linn Bedrok LP12 Plinth Upgrade

@richardbrand 

It is striking how little progress has been made in fundamental physics since I was at university fifty years ago, despite the huge expenditure incurred. So far, string theory hasn't produced a single experimentally testable finding. The only tangible result we have is the confirmation of the Higgs Boson which was postulated in the sixties. The incredible technological advances we've seen have been based on physics that was already known in the sixties and seventies. 

@newton_john  The problem I think Linn have is that they priced the LP12 50th at a number that is about twice the price of their Klimax model. The main improvement of the LP12 50th over the Klimax is the Bedrok plinth. Therefore, if Linn priced the plinth alone at $25K+ it would be a stretch ( albeit there are folks who would be happy to pay that), and they cannot price the Bedrok at a slightly higher level than a new standard Linn LP12 plinth, as that would certainly hurt their LP12 50th sales; so you see how in some ways they painted themselves into a corner.

@daveyf 

The LP12-50s are all gone. Linn didn’t have the capacity to make the Bedrok plinth upgrade until they’d fulfilled all the LP12-50 orders. 

The improved sonic performance of the LP12-50 is not entirely due to the plinth. Also, there were other costs going into it than just the plinth. 

I really don’t think the average LP12-50 customer would care what has subsequently happened with the Bedrok upgrade.

It takes nothing away from the specialness of what they bought. OK, that specialness wouldn’t appeal to the likes of you and me, but they look at it differently from us. The only person I know who bought one is the director of a hifi retailing company.

All other things being equal, there’s no way Linn would charge more than they have to for an upgrade. That just isn’t in their best strategic interests. It’s a fact of life that the more a product costs the less units are sold. The more top notch LP12s are out there and the more competitively priced they are, the better it is for the future of Linn. They envisage more LP12 upgrades in future and need a market for them.

They are not going to shoot themselves in the foot by unnecessarily pricing their products any higher than they need to be to pay for their R&D and sustain their profits. That would risk killing the golden goose.

@newton_john   I believe there is a LP12 50th on this site for sale. Has been listed for a while now, and at a discounted price. Also, I have heard that they are actually not sold out yet.

"No way Linn would charge more than they have to for an upgrade"??? LOL. OK.

@daveyf 

There may be the odd dealer that still has an LP12-50 that they ordered not allocated to a specific customer, but that doesn’t change what I said.

Don’t resort to the low trick of distorting what I said by quoting part selectively without the provisos. I thought you were better than that. 

Take a deep breath and read it again in context carefully with an open mind for goodness sake. Don’t act like one of the rabid Linn haters.

Of course, Linn are in it to make money, but no strategically savvy company is going to chase excessive short term profit to the detriment of long term success. Linn are privately owned and not subject to the pressures of the demands of the stock market wanting to make a quick buck. They’ve been at it for more than fifty years now.

Note that as I said previously, it’s possible in the case of the Bedrok that Linn may have applied a higher margin than normal because supply is limited - rationing by price. 

Let’s be nice and be measured in our posts. Avoid the smart ass comments please.