Let's talk music, no genre boundaries
This is an offshoot of the jazz thread. I and others found that we could not talk about jazz without discussing other musical genres, as well as the philosophy of music. So, this is a thread in which people can suggest good music of all genres, and spout off your feelings about music itself.
If there is reincarnation, it would make no difference in how I live my life. So it's not an avenue that I feel urgent to explore. I have had people accurately predict very specific events in my future, but I decided that pursuing that avenue was not something that would help me or change my life. Back to music. What did you think about my cateforization of performers: get out of the composer's way, seek beauty, have a free tempo for soul wrenching music? |
Reincarnation is an expression of freedom. We choose our life experiences. We had no memory because we can create and improvise and integrate our experiences, which otherwise with the weight of all our past lifes could makes it impossible for most...
If you want to read about reincarnation scientifically : Read Ian Stevenson book... If you want to go beyond, read Edgar Cayce and Rudolf Steiner books... If you want to read an incredible reincarnation story , inexplanable without reincarnation, read "the search of Omm Sety" by Jonathan Cott ... This book is totally incredible and true ... Dorothy Eady or OMM Sety is considered the goddess of Egyptology... One of the most passionate read i had last year...
If you are too busy you can listen this one hour radio given facts : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UajoDJosTYQ&list=PLDWCoiCR-ELl_5q7QPotDmDezHgww7h6t&index=12
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I do not believe in reincarnation so much as regard it as more likely true than not. While I came across the concept in my teens, it was the process of experiencing/witnessing my own mind/psyche -- in particular, the degree to which certain patterns are ingrained and resistant to modification -- that nurtured doubt that such rootedness could come about over the short course of a single life-time.
I wonder just how "free" we are once we are here on this plane, in these bodies. Yogananda himself questioned why our memories are wiped clean each time we are reborn (for most -- no doubt, there are exceptions). This would appear to render us more susceptible to the illusory nature of Maya from the start, less able to discern real from illusory and thus, less "free" to make wise choices. If one accepts the concept of the Divine Play, then one might conclude that if the actors are denied awareness they are actors, it will make for more "drama". |
You get me right here :
Your three categories makes no sense for me.
This is the first and last necessary category. Why ? Because all music experience is birth by the artists complex set of gesture and breath creating inside our physical measurable quantitative linear time a non linear qualitative non measurable time which is not a duration, nor just a rythm, but a non repeatable improvised spontaneous gesture which become incarnated meaning with his own time dimension as a pure quality with no object.
This made no sense because most music on earth is not even "written"... And the musician need his body and his "I" (not just his robotic ego ) and more to summon inside him all the gestures necessary to incarnate spirit... If someone play Liszt piano or Scriabin he need to invest himself totally...He cannot play letting his personality at the door, he must manifest his personality... It is true in jazz and in all music generally... But for sure Sun RA is not Hildegard of Bingen and neither is a talking Nigerian drum all is a question of balance between our ego and the music to manifest... And anyway composers are badly served played by people lacking character ...
This is preposterous sorry. Where did i gave the impression to dismiss "beauty" as the main essence of music ? Your third category is superfluous because music is beauty in time ....
Read books out of your feminine/masculine window. Reincarnation is almost proven fact by scientific inquiries and testimonies. And i am sorry but no physicist in the world will takes your "feminine physics" seriously.
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The reincarnation argument does not seem to me to have any more proof now than it ever did. I know my Buddhist friends believe in it. Perhaps in physics the infinite universe theory might approach reincarnation, but as far as I'm concerned that theory is only a theory. I think physics is from the male mind and therefore is happy to come up with a multiverse theory rather than acknowledge a creative force which is too suggestive of "God." I'd like to propose a "Multi-God" theory. It's all just thought experiments anyway. Even if you are Saint Augustin. Although, I'm hungry and I'd take his pear right out of his hand if he were standing in front of me, original sin be damned. Now, back to music. I have been thinking about your creative time suggestion, in which musical time comes from the performer. I am especially struck with that as Qobuz gives me so many choices for Bach's Cello Suites that I can't go through them all. I am now very happily listening to Fournier. Before him I was listening to Alisa Weilerstein. What I am thinking is that there seem to be three categories of musical performance. Number one, which I think you like best, is soul wrenching, in which the artist finds his/her musical timing. Number two is for the performer to get the hell out of the way and let the composer shine through. Number three is to try to create beauty, which I'm not sure you acknowledge or at least like in a musical piece. Let us say that Alisa Weilerstein is in the beauty category. Fournier in the get the hell out of the way category. And Starker in the soul-wrenching category. I may have mis-categorized these artists, but I think I might have the categories correct. Are you listening? |
If reincarnation exist, and the facts goes on this direction, "original sin" is only the original inhability to goes to higher existence level because we had freely chose the worst choice and we must freely choose the right direction toward the Source instead of going with our "ego" . "ego" is evidence of the original sin but evidence of our freedom and co-creative power... Augustine is not totally wrong ... |
You're right. Patience is British. We don't tend to redo British programs so much, although "The Office" was one place where we did do a good job. There was a British show called "Coupling" which we totally botched. I read a review that said the British are masters of milking embarassing moments, and we didn't have that knack. The poem was about "The 400 Blows" which was an autobiographical film that put Truffaut on the map. So the ending was both from the film and real life. But I loved the idea of a young troubled kid coming alive because he was about to go against all the adult rules with total conviction. In the film he tears down a movie poster in front of a theater. I was very upset when Truffaut died so young. At 52 I think. One of his best films which most people have never heard of is called "The Woman Next Door" with Fanny Ardent (his lover) and Depardeau. Such an interesting movie. I see all religions and "transcendental" thought as metaphors to express humanity's dichotomy. That's why I am interested in religion at different historical periods. Religious beliefs express the zeitgeist of humanity at a particular historical period. Although I know Augustin is a highly regarded (Christian) philosopher, I think that he came up with one of the worst and most destructive philosophical ideas: original sin. To think that infants are born with sin is just not right. I am listening to K.D. Lang's Hymns of the 49th parallel. It |
I’m pretty sure Patience is a British production. Thanks for the poem. I like the ending because I’m uncertain whether the kid outside the theater is in the movie or not. One view of the universe is that it’s all a big drama ("Lila", in Hinduism) and each of us is an actor playing a part. The tricky thing is, we forget we are actors and take it seriously, as though it were real. It’s just one of many stories people have invented in an effort to explain the paradoxical nature of life. Not one I’ve warmed to, personally.
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I think the French version was more quirky and stylized and... French. Although I am a fan of French cinema and have been since the early sixties when I saw "Jules et Jim." I am also a great Truffaut fan. I like the American version and am proud that we finally didn't screw up a foreign offering. My interest in consciousness actually overlaps with my interest in music. I want to know if people believe that the universe is conscious. If so, music very possibly preceded us. Or another way of putting it is that we exist to make music. Kind of airy-fairy stuff, but I'm interested for what I'm writing. I couldn't find Suzuki playing J.S. Bach's cello suites on Qobuz, but I did find him playing C.P.E. Bach's cello concertos. I enjoyed them, but was not really able to hear his style. There are very few of his recordings on Qobuz. Here's a poem about Truffaut: In Memory of Francois Truffaut
It doesn't have to be a big film with a lot of words an innocent obsession often goes unexpressed
It's enough if just once an evening with soft-spoken reverence he slips the knife between our eyes
& opens them to some unseen beauty dragged in off the street through the night:
The face of an abandoned boy lit by a movie marquee cocked in discovery on the brink of crime
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My sense was that "Astrid" played up the "strangeness" of the protagonist, presenting her as some sort of exotic or "alien" creature. It struck me as quite stylized (or perhaps, simply "quite French"?) in this regard. I actually preferred what seemed to me a more "human/humane" portrayal in "Patience", despite the fact that I typically prefer original series to "knock-offs". Of course, not being knowledgeable re: the spectrum, I can't reliably judge which might be more true-to-life or even if it's a case of either/or. They might be equally valid/invalid, for all I know. I simply related more to Patience. Reading about consciousness can be fascinating. Personally, I find connecting with it directly more rewarding. |
Thanks i never listen Suzuki ... I will correct that ...
Wow it is on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEHXTrJb3HQ&list=RDzEHXTrJb3HQ&start_radio=1 He did not play a modern cello but an old one, his colors mastery are astonishing... Something we must buy ... It feel like Helen Schmitt sound recording quality and articulation... Amazing and i dont have all the pieces yet ...
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One old version of Starker and Fournier are my two ultimate cello Bach... Here Starker is magnificent like Milstein for the violin... But i link Fournier with Szeryng then it is my best one ever , there is a pulse behind Fournier almost like the one with Szeryng......
By the way for the violin concertos i will die with one version only, i did not even kept any other version since 50 years , for the same reason behind my other choices, musical time born from inside the playing not imposed from outside on the playing... it is not the best orchestral version but i dont mind...Grumiaux sing and speak ... His sonatas and partitas were surpassed by others but not his concertos for violins playing ...Just thinking about it made me feel wings ...it is incredible...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEMfHTs1X8o&list=RDZEMfHTs1X8o&start_radio=1
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I have seen all the versions of The Bridge and also like the Swedish one best. (Or is it Danish?) I have also watched Patience and like it. I have not idea where they found such a pretty, telegenic woman on the spectrum to play Patience, but it works.I will try Professor T. I just paid for the PBS lecture series and listened to a bunch on quantum physics. I got to about episode 10 and it was too much work to watch anymore, but I think I got the gist. I am now reading a book about consciousness and I am glad I just learned about quantum physics because I'd got lost without that knowledge. |
For Bach's Cello Suites I purchased a recording by Starker. I read that he plays without vibrato (although I probably wouldn't have noticed on my own). He has a strong determined voice, whereas Yo-Yo Ma seems more fluid. I have streamed Alisa Wielerstein but still have not heard enough to have an opinion. |
I enjoyed "Astrid" as well as its British version, "Patience". Have you seen "Professor T." ? ? ? if not, I recommend the Belgian original. What about "The Bridge" ? The Bridge has been copied and redone in various languages but I still prefer the original (Bron/Broen) with Sofia Helin in the lead role. All of these shows feature "neurodivergent" protagonists. And now, back to our regularly scheduled discussion of Classical music. . . ;o) |
As i said i love Schmitt playing...I even listen to her for casual listening or for the "sound" ...But Szeryng is reserved for sacred listening where sound recorded quality dont matter... And i played the devil here with you suggesting the bad recording of Szeryng versus the seducing Schmitt version... But so magnificent and beautiful is the violin sound and mastery of Schmitt, my prefered version, if Szeryng did not exist, there is no comparison at all for me between the two artists so transcendent is Szeryng here ...And i never listened to any other version because none rival him, but few rival Schmitt... But to be frank there is a version that rival Szering without surpassing him for sure : Nathan Milstein ( majestic just under Szeriyng ) and Josef Szigeti (completely original and fascinating and very different playing than any other violonists then out of competition so to speak, like Schmitt who speak but do not sing, Szigeti speak prose and do not sing but his prose is sublime eloquence over even Schmitt) And there is one version rival of Schmitt for me : John Ehnes (almost perfect playing and more integrated playing than Schmitt more poetical than the perfect Schmitt prose, but the sound recording of Schmitt is unrivalled) ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpqpnd0-nV8&list=PLgDbwm0zQXxI9mj5mYaaEpwq83M1yue08 Forget the sound and listen the music out of any comparison... Szeryng sing and speak as God voice, not Schmitt, not even Ehnes , not even the almost godly Milstein (whose sound recordings and also playing by these three is one of the most spectacular i ever heard) ...
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I cannot say nothing against this master pianist indeed... I will go for him ... I did not have this one... but i doubt it will replace Nikolaeva https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIoIPoA2DV0&list=PLfdMKJMGPPtzTChPnz9y772Y-t3z7_hWu |
After streaming a fair amount of Helene Schmitt and Henryk Szeryng, I would go with Schmitt hands down. There is one caveat, however; I am not sure how much of my opinion is due to the recordings. Sceryng's violin seemed edgy. He did not have the deep resonance, especially of the lower strings, that Schmitt has. I will have to listen to something other than Bach partitas to see if this is a quality of his or the recording. |
I don't know if you watch TV and if so if you watch cable shows. There is a French show called Astrid about a woman on the spectrum who loves Bach's Art of the Fugue. After watching that show, I dug through my records, many of which I have forgotten I own, and found Zoltan Kocsis playing Art of the Fugue. I have been listening to it for a while now. I will have to compare it to some of the others you have suggested.
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Uchida is a genius especially in Mozart... ( Japan artists are special in my heart ) but i did not know her in Schubert i will go for it, thanks ...I dont doubt your opinion about Unchida and Schiff in Schubert, i guess you are right at my first listening ... For Schmitt i adore her... But you must listen Szeryng complete sonatas to understand his pulse way over every other interpretations i have heard... I like Schmitt for his sound articulation...but the spiritual time content is in Szering...pick the first version, the second is not on the same level at all, miracles occur once .
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I think I like Helen Schmitt better, but it is a close call with Szeryng. For me, it sounds as if Schmitt is playing somewhere in a cave deep in the earth. Szeryng in a way is more beautiful, but not as souldful. Nicolaeva over Gould. I think for me it will always be Nikolaeva, but I must compare her to Mitsuko Uchida if I can. Uchida has such a subtle touch which I have not heard in any other pianist. She has recorded all of Schubert's piano sonatas and his impromptus. I have both her recording and Schiff. Schiff is perfect but Uchida touches another dimension. You must listen carefully to hear it. She is like a Zen painter. Here is Uchida playing Schubert's Impromptu 899 second movement. What I would like you to listen to his her left hand and how she handles the harmonic theme. How she coaxes it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9YTnoBqGI4 Here is Schiff and again listen to his left hand and how he andles the harmonic theme. |
During my recent return to records over the last few years, I opened a can of worms when I came upon a sealed copy of a Dimitris Sgouros (I'll have to dig out the title for you later) record. I honestly did not know who this kid was at the time. Belated 56th birthday to this kid who now shares my age hahaha. Time to revisit. |
The same goes for me with the astonishing comparison between two versions of the Well tempered Klavier of Bach i loved...
The Version of Vladimir Feltsman is the one i loved the most for the same reason compared to the magnificent perfectly controlled version of Andras Schiff: There is plenty of others great versions of the klavier... I do not claim to know which is better... None is.... But i prefer those which is more akin to what i perceive as an internal gesture time dimension ....But i did not loose my pleasure listening the others as reading any major poets as Rilke for example dont erase the pleasure to read minor but good one ... Feltsman : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhpUeXI1fBs&list=PLzI6BT2ZG_AdecV0laI3t5kYmAl8bhSnf
Schiff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFnwy1xtFRk&list=PL1gAgJIplj-ksyosRdPE_-4FVlkp2oIbo
Here two i enjoy these two versions the most compared to others...but my favorite is Feltsman ....
I walk four hours each day and i listened music (mostly Bach) on my Hidizs dap with excellent farsoo kph40 headphone Koss clone ... I enjoy all Bach interpretations...I had at least 15 versions of "the art of the fugue" , probably the greatest musical work ever written. Interpretations i enjoy the most save the Felstman or Schiff one, is with Marriner orchestra or with Ristenpart...But i like them all ...
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When we speak we create our own time gesture... Now listen Nikolayeva playing "the art of the fugue" by Bach, it seems she speak and not only use the notes as notes but as vowels and consonants in a prayer ascending like a song ... Compare this with "perfect" Gould version which i like a lot too ... But here Gould played the notes not as words of a prayer singing but more as notes linked with an external timing in a perfect control percussive gesture for sure ...( we feel like Nikolayeva playing is more an improvisation instead)
It is my personal perception.... Anybody can feel otherwise for sure... Nikolaeva : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOCSBnCvOOQ&list=RDLOCSBnCvOOQ&start_radio=1
Gould: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAwgP7wpCYM&list=PLfdMKJMGPPty3BvGUEGJeCidp-lJsk_xF
Remember : i enjoy the two musicians here. But one seems more ascending in the depth... |
Nikolayeva as Yudina plays with a timing gesture internal to mucic which emerge only with her playing specific gesture ( in some works near his soul not in all works) ... The musical time dimension is for me the spiritual content of the music, the yeast that makes bread rise... Nikolayeva in Shostakovitch is at home, she created his own "time" inside this music (not measurable because linked to his gestures life) she dont go after one time external to the music as many mere virtuoso may do : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d94DLBjTfZo&list=RDd94DLBjTfZo&start_radio=1
Here i will propose 2 versions of Bach violin sonatas i love, but one which is soundwise"perfect" with an "external" reading of time but a perfect articulation by Helen Schmitt who i admire a lot and listen often... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltg6HjRPDu4&list=OLAK5uy_ntxYVtHBa0xdlGCh6PAv1FIn6orW2BXyk
And the irrepleacable version over even perfection because born from an "internal" time gesture, then a spiritual force emerging and flowing as the eternal beginning of the world... Beware because the violonist recorded it two time and only one is at the peak, the 1952 version with a less well sound but an eternal godly heart beat. This version i did not listen so often because it is a too sacred occasion and i wait to be in the state of total awareness ( i use Schmitt walking outdoor she is magnificent) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFjpvZefMpA&list=RDYFjpvZefMpA&start_radio=1
These two exemple of playing demonstrated well the huge difference between internal time born from the musical gesture himself and a gesture so perfect it could be (Schmitt) but which use an external time... Any playing in any instrument by every musician at any time may varies in levels of spirit content and this distinction between internal time and external time gesture is not clear cut. But if we use top supreme interpretation into these two categories using the same work we can feel it clearly...
It is the same thing in Nikolaeva almost impossible to rival version of Shostakovich preludes for piano , most other pianists compared to her use an external time with their gesture , not an internal time gesture like a flowing pulse which cannot be reduced to rythm,beats,etc like an individual gesture walking expression is unique for each individual, or writing gesture expression in graphology ...
Music like poetry cannot be taught at the end, only awaken in individuals..
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I really don't know much about headphones. I have one pair for listening to TV and a better pair for listening to music, in case I want it loud and my wife is around. I didn't do a lot of research, but I'm pretty happy with what I have. I'm spending most of my streaming time listening to Tatiana Nikolaeva. It takes me time to understand an artist. Today I listened to her play Beethoven's Hammerklavier Sonata 29. Also Sonata 28. As I said, on Qobuz I have about 40 albums. I will look for Schubert next and see if she plays him. She seems to concentrate on Shostakovich, Bach, and a lot of Beethoven. She has such a different touch than more modern pianists who concentrate on a kind of smoothness, for lack of a better word. Gliding over the keys, whereas she will leave larger gaps between notes. Lacking a music education, that's the best I can describe it.
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The second part of my first Moondog album bought exactly 51 one years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwBGtgoVPLs&list=PLtVo042bfbJjxkMT-4_DGyQ193vnEWsrj&index=30
Moondog taught me what is Earth rooted music few years before i discovered earth music ....
There is many Moondog albums here a treat for our ears especially for those who stay with their childhood: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtVo042bfbJjxkMT-4_DGyQ193vnEWsrj |
Peter Pringle is a multi-instrumentist who sang in ancient languages and -play with the ancient instruments , his youtube chanel is a gem : An ancient love song from Egypt:
He sing here an hymn of the creation of the world on an ancient Egyptian harp (reconstructed ) begin at 7m 30 s : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miNd08mhuAw&list=RDmiNd08mhuAw&start_radio=1
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Akhnaten is a masterpiece... Why ? Because Glass whose music root is also born from the music of his older friend Moondog, the street musician who learned music from the Arapaho tribe, Glass succeeded in recreating the tremendous power of the Ancient Egypt religiousness.. in his life , whose i read written by Philostratus, Apollonyos of Tyana , a seer known in all the world in the time of Christ, travelled in India and all around the known world, but he said according to Philostratus that no one is as religious as the Egyptians... Glass summoned as a magician something over time coming from the life of Akhnaten and his music ressuscitated the powerful faith of the Egyptian... i learned how think the Egyptian reading 50 years ago Schwaller de Lubicz in his huge book analysing the Louxor temple ( Lubicz predicted the Sphinx age on the spot seeing water erosion way before geologist Robert Schoch) ... Glass music contain something of this vision... it is miraculous not just a mere opera...
What is extraordinary also is the life of Omm Sety (Dorothy Eady) a reincarnated priestress of Abydos temple of Sety and lover of the pharaoh for which she was killed, Omm Sety hate Akhnaten and his story is better than all thrillers i ever read...And his Story ring true, Dorothy Eady was an egyptologist of the highest order self trained ... read the search for Omm Sety by Jonathan Cott ...i read it in one day few hours ...Stunning and true story... If you want to know why Omm Sety hated Akhnaten you must read the book of Cott... This book is the greatest love story by the way i ever read... Hollywood must do a movie here...I believe Omm Sety is real not a fake, she knew too much... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trj5dsNWgJ8
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There is many multi-instrumentists but i did not know anyone who created so much good albums in so original music and the language in which he sing in all his albums... It is not rock or pop but completely original music language .... The only other one artist multi-instrumentist and composer i worship like Micus who created many original music and was an inspiration and a personal friend for a genius as Philip Glass is Louis Thomas Hardin aka Moondog ...The "Vicking of the 6th street" ... A street blind musician of genius... A set of albums i own too and one in particular i listened to for 50 years : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqrSklQdVo0&list=RDdqrSklQdVo0&start_radio=1
his story in 15 minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neLfKmGHwgo
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My broad philosophy after all these years on earth is that it is stupid to spend money on something you won't use or enjoy. I don't go out to places where you wear expensive clothes (if they exist anymore--people wear shorts to the LA Phil). I won't wear them. Both my wife and I have old cars. We don't really need new, nice ones. We've had new nice ones and they didn't make any difference in our lives. Now, when it comes to audio, I listen to it every day. I always have it on when I'm writing on this forum. I have never purchased a piece of audio I couldn't afford or appreciate. I had a pair of Apogee Slant Eights (think long ribbons and a woofer) which were demos I bought for half price. When they blew, I found a pair of Goldenear speakers I could afford. I didn't look out of my price range. I came into a large inheritance this year. I sent my daughter and granddaughters to Italy. That was important to me, and it obviously deducted from my audio budget. But I had enough extra left for a nice pair of Sonus Faber speakers and a relatively inexpensive streamer. I had avoided a streamer because I could run an old computer through a D/A converter. I used it, but it was kind of a pain. I am an audiophile. That's where I spend my "hobby" money. When music sounds better, I enjoy it more. I think @frogman has made that point a few times. That is not to say I don't enjoy it when it comes through a less expensive system. I didn't really start upgrading my system until I was in my forties, and then only modestly. And I have listened to and enjoyed music with a $500 system, as I have told you before. If I had nothing else, I'd listen on the iPhone. I just got an opportunity to buy a ticket to see Aknhatan by Phillip Glass at the LA opera. Would @mahgister tell me not to do that? Would he say, I can listen on youtube. I'll answer for him. Hell no! He'd say snap that ticket up. There is a difference between life and recorded music, and there is a difference between youtube over a phone or computer and a nice streamer. My advice is at least look into streamers. If you have dealers around, listen to a few. I don't know if you buy used equipment, but I thought my streamer was a deal at $4K, and you can buy it used for $1500. If that's too much, then you can stream over your computer. Unless you plan on dying in the next year or two, streaming is the way music will be delivered in the future. If you can't afford a streamer, then you can listen to youtube on your computer over an inexpensive D/A converter on headphones. For somebody who loves music, it makes absolutely no sense to me not to do it. Although, I must admit, I was like you for many years. I would have nothing to do with streamers. I had my CDa and records. And, to be honsest, I was old, and stubborn, and dumb. |
@mahgister as do Jack White, Trent Reznor (NIN) Just saying.
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I’m surprised I’ve never heard of Micus. Will explore. Thanks!
Home page for IDEAL projects Deunov tracks for anyone interested: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTNypuLgY9fEdocDWHrOUhytEIvK0GxhZ
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Yes; of course, you are right. Predictably, I approached the Deunov with my usual resistance to classically-trained vocals but as I listened to more and more of his pieces on youtube, I simply stopped thinking in terms of music and my tastes and surrendered to the present-moment vibrational experience. Each person will have their favorites. I find this one especially powerful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1gO9y_JUF4&list=RD_1gO9y_JUF4&start_radio=1
.... but them I listen to another one and change my mind!
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I own 22 albums of Stephan Micus He play all instruments in all of his albums, makes all the voices... He composed songs in a language he created himself ... This is the first song of the "garden of mirrors" : "earth" A genius rooted in the earth in the age of uprooting ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2zeeVbIBeE&list=RDf2zeeVbIBeE&start_radio=1 He will not be on any pop chart or any "hit parade" ...
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At worst we can listen to them on youtube... music matter more than sound and youtube is not perfect but listenable...I prefer youtube than paying for streaming and buying a streamer... And what exist on cd if i love it i can purchase it or reach to it... It is impossible to hear the 200 songs of Peter Deunov on a cd or with streaming, it does not exist but on youtube, not only a great musician but a spiritual seer and a real one ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnRsEy4SstE&list=PLTNypuLgY9fEdocDWHrOUhytEIvK0GxhZ&index=71
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Thanks for your patience with me and for your musical intelligence ... i understand your point about Scriabin...It is an acquired taste , most people are not born loving Scriabin...
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I have finished playing around with my new cartridge for today so I have turned to Tatiana Nikolayeva. I am listening to her play Beethoven sonatas, some of which I know pretty well. I am listening to her play #18, The Hunt. I know this piece quite well. I have an album of Artur Rubinstein playing it on his 90th birthday. He approaches it like childplay and plays it with a kind of childish glee. I have never heard anyone I liked as much playing the piece, but I think Nikolayeva has a style as unique and enjoyable as Rubinstein. I needed to get away from Scriabin, whom I don't know well and understand, to a composer I do know, in order to judge her playing. I am coming to your opinion that she is one of the greats of the 20th century. |
I just bought a ticket to see Aknhatan at the LA Opera next March because you said it was so good. Thank you. Just keep throwing music out and I'll listen when I can. This is the first cartridge I've bought that I actually have been able to tune using my ear. Too bad all these abilities come so late in life. But at least they come. I listened to a famous Caesar Franck violin sonata. Everytime I hear him I wonder why I've never listened to him more. I like that the birds are teaching you guitar. In the end, music is music. I am reading a book on consciousness written by a philosopher. I think he will prove (or suggest?) that the universe is conscious. And thus music. |
An American pianist, Joseph Villa, who died too soon able to play Scriabin in his own fluid way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prLYVTBOPPk&list=RDprLYVTBOPPk&start_radio=1
I participate on this excellent public thread and i propose music for all those reading it not just for you, and i understand if you cannot hear all of what is suggested here ...I apologize if my posts disturbed you and because you are the OP i can stand still and mute if you prefer so ...
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I just purchased a new phono cartridge I am trying to break in, so I'm not streaming for a while and can't listen to your suggestions. I thank you though for those that have gotten through to me. In a few weeks I'll be able to sample things again. But throw less at me. I can perhaps at most listen to one piece every few days. Thanks |
