Last Critical Tweak… how to quell occasional high harshness…?


Dear Audiogon Community,

 

I am so impressed with the insight and obsession we all share with this musical alchemy of electrons. I write to address a simple problem through as simple (and hopefully relatively inexpensively) as possible… though before such elegant maneuvers, an overly verbose and fussy description:

 

 

Harshness in the highs…. Trumpets and some vocals now make my ears shrill at times. My aging ears! It is so close to musical bliss, but this slight edgyness must be quelled!

 

This song, horns seem to shatter. 

This song, vocals seem to pierce. 

 

I recently leveled an entirely new system. My last tweak was to move my main gain tube to Mullards, and the Brimar NOS tubes to the outer gain location. The mullards afforded a richness and expansiveness, a forward mid and elegance, but introduced the occasional shrillness which I seek to quell. 

 

My musical electron dance is as follows on the streaming side:

 

Nagra Streamer —> Audio Zen MC2 Coax —> Halo Audio Spring 2 Level 3 Kitsune —> Duelund 16 GA Interconnect —> Prima Luna Dialogue Premium HP —> Brimar NOS outer tube and Mullard NOS main gain tube —> Gold Lion KT77 Power tubes —> Duelund 16GA Speaker wire —> Pure Audio Project Duet Horn’s with a gold silver oil Mundorf Cap upgrade —> Duelund wire to the horn and the 15” Woofer. 

 

Fun yes! Devine! But how to quell this one last occasional shrillness?

 

Thoughts:

-Speaker Wire to 12 GA

-DAC - Amp Interconnect changed to something that mellows out the shrill

-Main Gain tube upgraded from a Mullard NOS to something else… (I believe there was a slightly higher grade Mullard?)

-Nagra Stream - DAC Coax cable upgraded to something mellower….?

 

Open to any and all suggestions! Thank you so much for your insights. 

 

R. 

whyrichard

Showing 2 responses by erik_squires

I was typing very fast earlier.  I stand by my statement but wanted to expand a little.  I've found that harshness in the mid-treble, especially when it sounds more like distortion is often room dependent and does not easily yield to DSP or EQ without also suppressing the treble overall. 

It sounds at first like an equipment problem, you don't hear it until you turn up the volume.  You turn down the treble, distortion is gone but so is the treble! 

It has to do with our ear brain mechanism and time.  Besiddes sitting very close to the speakers you can try using temporary things like blankets or pillows in strategic places to see if that helps.  One area which is usually not treated where  I find hash can live is the floor/wall behind and between the speakers.  Fortunately it's super easy to throw a pillow or two there to test. 

Sit close to the speakers.  Does the problem completely go away?  You jave an acoustics problem and your ropm is too reflective.