Thanks Chuck, I know your a CJ man, me too, I really like the premier 14 and want to keep it in the system. I have heard Krell amps in showrooms only, some I liked, some I was run out of the room. But, I heard the 600FBP and it was pretty spectacular in terms of presence, imaging, and impact driving Proac 3.5's. I will be driving Thiel 3.6's. The classe does a nice job, it is a powerhouse but I feel more power would really make them jump. Thanks for the response - come on Krell owners, I'm an MIT guy and Krell on this site is almost as controversial - help me out!